Posts by careful

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JW visit...after 12 years out

by Nobleheart1 in

i used to post here under the name nobleheart but forgot the old password, so put up a new account (nobleheart1).

was a jw (2002-2011), ended up writing a da letter.

i am a christian (since leaving the org).

careful

You've stated the changes so well:

Preaching is looking at the cellphone and listening to clips. Those clips are so silly, I have no idea what's so special or complex about them that they cannot summarize in their own words. Why would someone listen to a stranger explain why Bible reading is important to them when the JW at the door can provide their own experience? It is baffling to say the least.
... The lessons are so elementary, they're grade 3 level. The dumbing down is unbelieveable.

How like Jesus and the apostles preached and taught!

They are all dumb from the top on down now. Likely they have been trained to just repeat the pabulum given them because the GB are afraid of letting anyone think on their own, and that stems from the internet info and the dissemination of sites like JWD. The result is millions of zombies.

When are you going to drop the bomb that you DAed yourself? Surely they will instantly flee.

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Breaking News: Anthony Morris III no longer serving on the Governing Body

by WingCommander in

jw
friends

this has been announced on the jw's official website, in the "jw news" section.

this is not a joke.

anthony moron da turd is out as a gluttonous body member!

careful

Balaamass2, thanks very much for this info. Let's hope it is accurate.

Smart move on Watchtower's part to be the landlord. Few people bite the hand that feeds them. A lesson learned from harassing Ray Franz.

True but in the case of Ray Franz someone very powerful was out to get him, Ted Jaracz. From appearances now, there is no one on the current GB who is that hostile to Morris.

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Has Tony been abducted by Aliens?

by Mit123 in

probably but they’ve sent him back pretty darn quick!

i have from a very reliable source that he attends one of the poughkeepsie ny congregations.

i think there are 5 congregations there might be worth paying a visit if anyone lives near there..

careful

So if he is "still in Bethel" then what is he doing there? Not attending GB meetings, but he likely has some kind of job there.

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Answering JW Conversation Stoppers

by Vanderhoven7 in

jws often try to justify their religion as being the only true religion.

questions like.

which other organization is doing this or that?

careful

Ding, you know what they'd say to

"I don't understand why you call your religion 'the truth' when so many of their key teachings have changed just within our lifetime."

... progressive revelation and "that's just the light getting brighter" as time passes.

A better one might be: "So are the members of the GB perfect?"

They: "Of course not. All humans are imperfect."

Better: "Then please give me some examples of their imperfections."

They, sputtering and blushing: "Oh, I've got to go now!"

Guaranteed conversation stopper!

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Most children of Jehovah's Witnesses followers in Japan have been whipped, survey shows

by Rattigan350 in

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2023/03/15/national/jehovahs-witnesses-whipping/.

the most cited reason was “napping or talking during congregations.” others included “answering back to parents” and “playing with a schoolmate.”.

some respondents said they have been suffering depression as a result of whipping.. “i still cannot forget the sight of children screaming after they were taken into a large room at a congregation when i was a child,” a 44-year-old victim said, stressing that jehovah’s witnesses should reflect on what followers have done.. in february, a group of lawyers started supporting those second-generation followers.. in a statement issued on march 1, the japanese branch of jehovah’s witness said it does not accept child abuse.. https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20230315/p2a/00m/0na/006000c.

careful

carla, I know that I have watched YouTube vids that provide an English translation, but I can't figure out how to do that with this one! I brought it up on YouTube directly but still could find no translation option.

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Bethel Tours restarting

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

the org is always so late.

i remember the last in person meetings before went to zoom, none of us were wearing facemasks and i thought why is the org so late with this.

they just announced older ones shouldn’t come but most large organisations had already stopped in person.

careful

Where's the info on Bethel tours restarting?

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Dreading the memorial

by Isambard Crater in

hey.

does anyone else dread attending (in person or on zoom) the memorial months in advance?.

literally as soon as new year hits, i feel sick and super anxious, and i've realised it's because of the memorial, which i only attend because of family, who kinda tell me the reason they have bad health is cuz i left the jw sevel years ago..

careful

Of course it's been years since I was active, but I always enjoyed the Mem. because all kinds of interesting people came: non-believing family members, old-timers, various often quite fascinating inactive ones, visiting/non-local single sisters who were husband hunting (often getting desperate), newbies who were in that dizzy state they were frequently in. It was a sort of circus if one could step out of the prescribed "serious" nature of the occasion.

I thought it was great fun to watch newbies react to the bread and the wine being passed and nobody partaking. It was really funny when someone would munch and take a belt, especially a good one, of the wine, and then watch the elders' reactions! I would often seek out the newbies and non-believing family members afterward and ask for their impressions. Sometimes it was quite telling. Then you could go out to a restaurant afterward and let them see the local Witness community with their hair down, the opposite of the Mem. itself.

Gabbing with the old-timers was fun too. Some knew the Judge or went back to the old days. They were often gruff. I remember one old sister who was unhealthy but made it to the Mem. each year. Since she was hard of hearing, she would speak real loudly. After the meeting was over, she was speaking of her active son's bad marriage and said, "Yeah I told him, so you wanted to screw around and now you're paying the price!" This was almost a shout, so the whole congregation heard it, even over all the small talk. A KH-wide hush followed. The sister was so old and respected that no elder would dare counsel her. I just laughed inside and thought, "Only at the Memorial!"

To me the Memorial was great fun—if you didn't take the org's perspective of it too seriously.

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why are we interested in what is going on in the JW

by enoughisenough in

for the most of us, we have left the jws...and even though we are no longer jw, many of us are still interested in their beliefs, doctrines and practices as currently practiced.

i was trying to sort out in my mind why i still care about what they are doing.

i think the answer to that is a hope that something will develop in the jws that will wake up a lot of others, and selfishly, a lot of my friends.

careful

The list of those who were active when this forum began or in its early years but have dropped out is much larger than those early members who are still around, especially if we don't count those who have joined up here more recently. Plenty of those early member dropouts have Witness family still in.

So the question might be more narrowly asked "Why have we stayed active here when others in similar situations as ourselves, who were once very active here, have indeed moved on beyond the ex-JW community? Are our needs different from theirs?"

BTW, just to set matters straight, this is my third incarnation on JWN/JWD, largely due to losing my password when Simon made major changes and I had to reregister to get back in. So I go back years before my current nic shows.

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Looking for single sister/non sister to chat and have fun with

by Chris34 in

hi,.

im 34/m/idaho looking to chat/cam with female that is also looking for the same.. hit me up, looks forward to meeting you.. chris .

careful

Is this for real? A troll? Joker? Witness plant?

Should it be in the humor section?

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Breaking News: Anthony Morris III no longer serving on the Governing Body

by WingCommander in

jw
friends

this has been announced on the jw's official website, in the "jw news" section.

this is not a joke.

anthony moron da turd is out as a gluttonous body member!

careful

The prayer for his family may indicate that he's on death's doorstep. Thus he may have requested he be relieved of duties in order to be with them his final days. Perhaps the GB does not want to appear too hypocritical -- remember how they said certain elders should not serve in certain positions if they were too old and frail. Who knows? We'll have to see what shakes out here.