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  Conversion Therapy for Gay Bethelites in Poland (?)

  by Jensus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  recently, there was a rather accurate report on jw on german tv station "sat1".

  you find it on their streaming service joyn.. https://www.joyn.de/serien/jenseits-des-glaubens-zwischen-religion-und-verblendung/1-2-die-zeugen-jehovas.

  there was one piece of information that was new for me: a former bethelite explained that he realized that he was gay.

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  Sounds rather bizarre . . . Who paid for this "therapy," the org? Or did some European socialized medicine program offer it?
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  Memory hole, international conspiracy, and the JW international network

  by slimboyfat in

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  2. current

  can anyone else who was around 15 to 20 years ago remember an odd story about jw missionaries being stopped at the swiss/italian border with american bonds worth billions of dollars in their possession?

  because i can find little to no information about it anywhere online, yet at the time i am sure i recall it being reported by different mainstream news sources, including the bbc.

  why do some news stories seem to disappear from the internet altogether?

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  SBF, what have you been smoking? Drinking? Dreaming about? Have you looked into any side effects from medications you take?

  Have you thought about fixing your concerns and energies on more tangible subjects?

  Just a thought . . .
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  Any information about a special talk on Marriage in December 2024

  by insearchoftruth in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  two folks from the local kh visited the house yesterday looking for my wife who is an on again off again baptized jw.

  wife was not available so they asked me to tell her about a special talk on marriage next week.

  any outlines available for this ‘special talk’ or could this potentially be a local issue?.

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  One thing you can count on in Witness land: anything that is designated as "special" will be ordinary, normal, run-of-the-mill. It's a phrase they use without normal meaning in order to spice up their unexciting life—at least in their eyes.

  What special could they say about marriage that they haven't before? Maybe that blow jobs and cunnilingus are OK now. That might be viewed as "special" to them. However, it's not altogether new since it's been in print/on video now for some time.
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  Memories of Excessive Laughter

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  jw's are not known for laughter.

  there are the rare exceptions.

  they are more known for their fear mongering and doomsday scenarios where "the dead shall come to be as manure on the surface of the ground from one end of the earth clear to the other".

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  It wasn't her laugh that people mocked it was like "why the hell are you laughing right now there's nothing funny." For her it was a defensive delay tactic to give a reaction to a question so that her brain had time to come up with a reply.
  

  moomanchu, she's not laughing any more. Instead "trying to figure out" why she/her dem. cronies lost—all the while while not facing the real reason that the majority of voting Americans rejected her: the dems have gone too far in their liberalism. We witness the long-simmering anti-liberal reaction all over the West: in the UK with Brexit, in Hungary, Germany, and Poland with the rise of the radical right. People are scared of encouraging kids to choose their body gender surgically before they can drive a car or even reach puberty. That's what the liberals have brought about.
  
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  Prepare to get Pelted by Symbolic Hailstones

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  https://youtu.be/idhmflud3p4?si=9xc4svrhxslduwvz.

  so david schafer a member of the teaching commitee and a helper to the governing body has come out yesterday with a new video that goes through the king of the north, the hailstones message and other things in the wake of the possibility of a ww3 and especially now that tensions are escalating with russia so he is making quite a few end time arguments and i will be expanding on those one by one but today let's see what he has about the hailstones message of the end(video) so this is the paragraph in question, paragraph 14 from article 20 of the watchtower 2020 study edition: "sometime after the start of the great tribulation, “the kings of the entire inhabited earth” will form a coalition of nations.

  (rev.

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  Why is it that this David Schafer chap reminds me soooo much of a United States Marine Corps drill sergeant? Does anyone else see this? He sure isn't growing any facial hair!
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  Memories of Excessive Laughter

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  jw's are not known for laughter.

  there are the rare exceptions.

  they are more known for their fear mongering and doomsday scenarios where "the dead shall come to be as manure on the surface of the ground from one end of the earth clear to the other".

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  Show me one instance in the bible where Jesus laughed.
  

  Thank you, nicolaou. I remember once meeting a chap, a critically-thinking lawyer, in FS who had never been raised in any "Christian" tradition, so his exposure to so-called Christianity was limited to the mainstream, liberal social gospel version that the media generally reports on as safe/normative. He said he'd recently read through the four gospels and was struck with how grim and judgmental Jesus was, and how dissonant the gospels were from what he had expected they would be. I told him he was far more spot on (or I guess it was "right on" in those days) than most religious folks.

  People love to focus in on passages like Jesus blessing the children or the parable of the shepherd picking up the errant lamb and putting on his shoulders, and they discount (for all practical purposes), eschew, or at least avoid the many times he condemns not just his opposers, but the crowds overall, and even his own disciples. He states how few are on the road to life and how difficult the path to it is. These and his multiple anti-family statements are written off as "the hard sayings of Jesus" and rarely dwelt upon both by church attendees and biblical scholars.

  I remember reading the gospels apart from the Witnesses and thinking how radical, how difficult Jesus' message was, and how I was reacting like the disciples, "Then who can be saved?"

  No, he never laughs, but does cry, twice. I remember how condemned I was in JW-land for bringing up these points, but I suspect I would be even more so by church clergy and parishioners like those in the OP's post (no offense, She Breeze! I often enjoy your posts).
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  Fashion in Heaven

  by peacefulpete in

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  why is it that fashions are assumed to have stayed the same in heaven for thousands of years?

  you'd think that after wearing the same boring robe for eternity you'd crave something different.

  yet no, angels and god are still wearing the same white onesie they had when they vacationed on earth with abraham.

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  Drawing Jesus with a machine gun, or angels playing electric guitars invokes a negative reaction.
  

  Well now, I knew this homeless guy who enjoyed both psilocybin and LSD. He once said he saw Jesus and Jimi Hendrix playing together ...

  Now I'm "trying to be humorous" ..., right PP & KOW?
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  EMERGENCY ALERT!! UKRAINE LAUNCHES MORE NATO MISSILES INTO RUSSIA . . . WORLD WAR III IS HERE!!!

  by Littleleslie in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  emergency alert!!

  ukraine launches more nato missiles into russia .

  world war iii is here!!!

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  Littleleslie,

  Have you considered psychotherapy?
  
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  Parliamentary question on paedophilia among JWs in Italy

  by Achille in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  (google translation).

  question to the chamber by m5s mp stefania ascari to the ministry of the interior on paedophilia among jehovah's witnesses in italy, starting from the recent case in florence, with references to the various cases that have broken out around the world.. i sense a certain creaking at the italian bethel in rome at via della bufalotta 1281, the italian branch of the watch tower bible and tract society of pennsylvania.

  will this have future implications for the italian jehovah's witnesses exponential body, the christian congregation of jehovah's witnesses and for its branch committee, which represents the interests of the governing body in our country?https://aic.camera.it/aic/scheda.html?numero=4/03795&ramo=camera&leg=19.

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  Thanks, Achille, for the explanations. The insight about the RC Church is appreciated and makes sense. Whether the GB's ploy will work or not in Italy remains to be seen, eh?
  
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  Did Tony Morris Get Sideways with His Bros.?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  interesting video connects the dots.

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  https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3ff1ibybfe4&t=205s&pp=2ahnazacaq%3d%3d.

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  the line will be held at the local level. You know, when the elders have their "school". They review the elders manual, and all the direction the WT doesn't want to have in writing gets filled into the "side notes" during those meetings.
  

  Spot on, MMM.