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atypical
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Appreciating the info here
by kiddotan ini am engaged to a wonderful man who is jw.
this wg has been bombarded by his mother.
father is pretty happy to us about us.
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Do you have a demon, and can others have any in them?
by JH in.
many thousand years ago, jesus expelled demons in people.
do you think it's possible today that people, maybe you or i, may have one or more demons in us, controling us to a certain extent?
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atypical
I can definitely say that I lived in morbid fear of demons as a kid because of all the stories I heard from my parents and others in the hall. I was scared even in the daytime, especially if I had to be alone. I was convinced that the demons would figure out I was so scared and decide to torment me. Even now, once in awhile that feeling returns, even though deep down I now think it is all rubbish.
Psychological trauma, anyone?
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atypical
Sorry for the empty post; I hit return on accident when I was typing the name of the thread. I re-posted correctly.
Thanks for the info.
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How many of you shunned others when you were a JW?
by Lady Lee ini know i did.. we had a young fellow who used to live at my grandmother's place.
in may ways he was like family.
after he moved out of my grandmother's place i saw him frequently.
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I shunned one of my best, oldest friends while he was df'd. At the time, I thought I was helping him. We often talk about it, and he doesn't hold it against me because he knows I thought I was doing what was right.
Later, after I started to mentally rebel at the idea of disfellowshipping, I purposely would hang out publicly with another friend who was df'd. I was reported to the elders and threatened with judicial action.
Lately, someone I am very fond of in our hall got df'd, and I made a point right in the kingdom hall (he had to go past me to sit down, it was during the meeing and towards the front so everyone could see) to reach up and grab his arm; shaking it like a quick 'I love you'. I could feel my wife stiffen like she was going to pass out, and I made sure to do it with a big smile and no embarrassment. I agree with Dave, that touch is a big deal because it establishes something much deeper than all the surface crap the person is dealing with.
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Whoops, I meant Circuit Leasing.........!?
by atypical insorry, i hit enter on accident.
anyway, does anyone know what the deal is with www.circuitleasing.com ?.
if there is already a thread on this, can someone post it for me?
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atypical
Sorry, I hit enter on accident. Anyway, does anyone know what the deal is with www.circuitleasing.com ?
If there is already a thread on this, can someone post it for me? I have been trying to figure this out; I sent two requests for information from circuit leasing and received no response. I finally e-mailed a third time and got a response. I was told that Ciruit Leasing is not owned by the Watchtower, and if I have questions about circuit leasing, I should ask my Circuit Overseer! Is it just me, or does that kind of answer make your head want to explode? I e-mailed again and asked how my circuit overseer would know about their company if they are not owned by the watchtower. I also asked if they are in any way affiliated with Jehovah's Witnesses and why they would want to dodge my questions.
any input?
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Good Comebacks - Any Help?
by atypical ini am trying to do the "fade" for the sake of my wife and family, but it is getting extremely difficult.
my wife's cong.
is even more nosy than most.
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Thanks again, everybody. I appreciate the input. I am a very sarcastic person by nature, but I am trying to go with the subtle approach some of you mentioned. After being at the meeting last night, I had a call from a friend who kept asking in different ways if I was ok, and if I had just been too busy, or if I needed to talk, etc. I kept turning it to the positive like jgnat and others mentioned, and it seemed to work. I said I was doing great, yes I have been very busy, how is your work going, I would love to get together soon, and so forth. I just didn't even hint that there was anything wrong or negative.
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Good Comebacks - Any Help?
by atypical ini am trying to do the "fade" for the sake of my wife and family, but it is getting extremely difficult.
my wife's cong.
is even more nosy than most.
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atypical
Thanks everybody for the great advice, and all the good laughs. You gave me enough material to last for months of sporadic appearances at the KH. The good laugh helped me get through tonight.
Well, I am back home now, and happy to say I made it through without incident, except for the upset stomach, jitters and anxiety which I expected. We arrived during the first song and went straight to the back room, (not without receiving plenty of looks) and left right after the last prayer. It was CO visit like I mentioned, so that helped because everyone was mostly concerned with getting an audience with the CO after the meeting.
Ironically, a talk was given about the dangers of the internet. It was given by a brother who has been known to have quite a problem with pornography, so that was entertaining. It was also mentioned that anyone displaying anti-social behavior may be doing so because they have developed a problem with pornography on the internet and are ashamed to be around their brothers and sisters. Well, I guess now everyone thinks they know why I haven't been at meetings! Give me a break.
Thanks again for all the support!
Gary, although I will probably never have the nerve to do it, just picturing myself with my finger out my zipper, holding my glasses and blowing spit bubbles will give me a happy thought anytime I encounter negativity. Thanks
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Paintball and Lazertag - Can True Christians Play?
by truthseeker ina friend in my congregation enjoys playing paintball from time to time.
others play lazertag.
now, while these may imitate the "concepts of war", has there been any society comments on these games?
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Howdy,
I searched the watchtower cd for the subject, and found this article. It's from the the 89 awake. I cut and pasted part of it. Here it is:
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Games—Are They for Christians?About 20 members of two Sacramento-area churches, in California, paid about $35 each to "participate in the increasingly popular outdoor sport," one reporter wrote. "Church against church, they took to the rugged terrain for nearly six hours—hiding behind trees and 55-gallon [200 L] drums, firing carbon-dioxide-powered guns and trying to capture the other team’s flag." When questioned about the propriety of a church leader engaging in such a sport, a preacher of one of the churches said: "Just because you’re a Christian doesn’t mean you can’t be a human being and have fun." His counterpart, pastor of the opposing team’s church, reportedly "had no doubts about playing war games on a regular basis." However, should not one calling himself a Christian have doubts about playing games that glorify war?
One player stated: "It’s everybody’s dream to sneak up and get right behind your man and blow him away. That’s the ultimate kill. He never knows what hit him and he’s dead." Another said: "I fell in love with it the first time I played. It’s like getting addicted. You have to come every week and get your adrenaline rush."
Many behavioral experts denounce war games as being offensive and a stumbling block to others, calling them a "frightening phenomenon." Various reactions were:
"The act of pointing a gun at someone, paint pellets or not, and pulling the trigger could lead to desensitization when it comes to real violence." "Getting a rush from shooting people seems unsavory in the extreme." "I see it doing far more harm than good," said a professor of psychology at the University of Wisconsin (U.S.A.) and a specialist on aggression. "The evidence is clear that there’s no beneficial catharsis and that there can be a reduction in the inhibitions against violence." "Other critics have called the war games craze a sick version of people hunting and simulating murder," says the magazine New Orleans. "One . . . suggested that war games participants were actually in need of a good therapist."
Besides the morally obscene nature of the games, they are fraught with danger, resulting in many injuries.
War is an abhorrent thing. That is why a Christian gets no thrill or exhilaration from simulating or perpetuating it, dramatizing it. Rather than taking delight in participating in such aggressive acts, the true Christian delights in the fact that the Grand Creator, Jehovah God, will soon make "wars to cease to the extremity of the earth."—Psalm 46:9; Isaiah 2:4.
I know from the halls I have been in that it was very frowned upon, but everyone did it. They just made sure to only invite the right people who would not talk about it later.
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***Drinks on the House!***
by Soledad inthe past 2 hours or so have been pretty intense here so i say we all sit back and enjoy a drink or two!!
what's your favorite drink?
i like to invent new ones or mix up some known favorites.
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atypical
Ever try an Incredible Hulk? It's great, but not a casual drink - best reserved for special occasions when you can afford to wake up feeling not so incredible.
Anyway, it's made with equal parts of Hennesey and Hypnotiq on ice. The two colors mix to turn the drink exactly the color of the "Hulk". Oh, and it tastes good, too.