two well known posters have made references to the wbts use of the ellipse in the publications within the past week.. what, you may ask, is an ellipsis and why should i care?.
ellipsis ( p ) pronunciation key (-lpss).
n. pl.
LDH, thank you, I did not know the word until this thread. However, I have noticed for a long time the society's use of the "brackets" to insert whatever they want. I have been going back and reading WTS material with my new mindset, and I am amazed each time I see the ellipsis (sp?) at how much they can change the meaning.
Paradigms, paradigms........
once again i will give you time to pick your jaw up off the floor while i explain what i mean.
all of us who are ex-jw's have speculated on signs of the end.
now the key sign as shown in 2tim 3:1-5 (how do i remember these scripts) so all the problems in the world are proof that we are living in the time of the end.
It's all about supply and demand, just like any other business. As long as there are people frustrated with their current life and ready to turn over the reins to an organization, the WTS will be there. I honestly don't think it will die, it will just evolve as needed to maintain members.
i was so awash with emotion during the day of my being baptised, i think i would've answered yes to having a root canal.
what was it i was swearing my allegiance to on that ominous day?
are there a standard set of questions that they ask all baptismal candidates at these cermonial offerings?
Yes, it really is a very good read for someone who is not concerned with the authority of the wtbts. All you have to do is ignore the last few sentences of each chapter, which is where the writers try to explain why the particular religion is wrong.
Also, I had not heard of the book you mentioned. I am going to search it out and read it. I firmly believe that the WTS' biggest downfall will be their own words, which is why I enjoyed Quotes' site so much.
cheers
i was so awash with emotion during the day of my being baptised, i think i would've answered yes to having a root canal.
what was it i was swearing my allegiance to on that ominous day?
are there a standard set of questions that they ask all baptismal candidates at these cermonial offerings?
Auld Soul, you are so right. I have mentioned points out of the Mankind's Search book many times to elders and ministerial servants who just looked at me curiously. When I was still attending book study, I would make a point to comment and incorporate something from that book. I never understood why most of the witnesses I knew didn't read it.
The book tries at the end of each chapter to give a reason why the particular religion is wrong, but as you said, it actually gives a ton of food for thought. It even maps out Protestantism, which was very enlightening to me.
It seems like the society made a variance by printing that book; they usually try to steer everyone away from any kind of knowledge about other religions.
as a witness, i knew several men who attempted to grow beards.
when they did, and attended meetings, it did not take long to be talked to by elders and told, "as spiritual men, they should not display an outward form of rebellion.
" why was this a form of rebellion?
I am considering going back (only for a visit) with my new goatee. I have been so frustrated with the stress of fading that I almost feel like it will be a relief to walk into the hall with a big bunch of facial hair and smile at everybody.
i was so awash with emotion during the day of my being baptised, i think i would've answered yes to having a root canal.
what was it i was swearing my allegiance to on that ominous day?
are there a standard set of questions that they ask all baptismal candidates at these cermonial offerings?
Good thread, Prophecor. To me, this is a major, major issue. I hate to admit it, but I never even thought about my baptism questions until reading on this forum. And yes, I was baptized after '85, so I had the new set. At the time, like you say, I was swept up in emotion and would have done whatever I was told.
It's interesting, not only did I not notice the questions, but I agonized the entire weekend (I was baptized at a District Convention) that I was maybe not ready to baptized. I felt very guilty that I was somehow unqualified to get baptized, and that Jehovah would be unhappy with me. I was only 13, and I honestly had never done anything - no smoking, no lying, no masturbating, nothing. I was very caught up in the fever to be perfect and free from blame, and I was afraid that somehow something was wrong with me.
It was the convention where they released the Mankind's Search For God book, and I read the entire book on the way home Sunday (2 hour drive). Interestingly, that book is what got me thinking outside the box as far as witness beliefs go.
That second question is just one more example of the society learning to protect themselves in every way. All liability is on the individual, and none of it is on them.
i would like to first off stating that my name is migu jandhiki.
i am the prophet of jesus that u have all been looking for!
i have been fallowing all the studys of jehovah's witness very carefully.
Well, I don't care if it rains or freezes
Long as I got my internet Jesus
as a witness, i knew several men who attempted to grow beards.
when they did, and attended meetings, it did not take long to be talked to by elders and told, "as spiritual men, they should not display an outward form of rebellion.
" why was this a form of rebellion?
In my area, it is quite popular even for elders to have moustaches. Some of the black brothers even get away with a small soul patch under their bottom lip if they also have a moustache. Long sideburns, goatees, and beards, though, are extremely taboo here. Anybody who has the nerve to grow them is viewed in a very negative light.
i would like to first off stating that my name is migu jandhiki.
i am the prophet of jesus that u have all been looking for!
i have been fallowing all the studys of jehovah's witness very carefully.
I think he was attempting to say "loser".
Jesus, you insulted the one guy who tried to be polite to you (AlmostAtheist)
You deserve the verbal beating you are about to take.
i would like to first off stating that my name is migu jandhiki.
i am the prophet of jesus that u have all been looking for!
i have been fallowing all the studys of jehovah's witness very carefully.
LOL!
PMJ might actually be the smarter sibling, how scary is that!
