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  IS THE WATCHTOWER A FALSE PROPHET?

  by You Know in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  when jesus was on earth the devil approached him quoting scripture in order to tempt and entrap him.

  it is no wonder then that the apostate angel would be behind the effort to use the scriptures against jehovahs people today in order to mislead them.

  one of the most cunning and effective uses of scripture against us by satans agents is the charge that we are false prophets.

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  Hmm... no answer to my question. Worse yet, a nonsensical claim to have answered it.

  Read: "I cannot address this matter honestly, for to do so would topple my house of cards."

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  IS THE WATCHTOWER A FALSE PROPHET?

  by You Know in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  when jesus was on earth the devil approached him quoting scripture in order to tempt and entrap him.

  it is no wonder then that the apostate angel would be behind the effort to use the scriptures against jehovahs people today in order to mislead them.

  one of the most cunning and effective uses of scripture against us by satans agents is the charge that we are false prophets.

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  YK, has the Watchtower ever used the old, non-Christian method of determining false prophets when dealing with Christians?

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  Sum everything up with just one sentence???

  by Celtic in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what you got to say, in a nutshell?.

  peace.

  celtic

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  Don't talk about doing it... do it.

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  What're the new spins going to be?

  by ashitaka in

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  2. friends

  i was talking with my wife and surmised that in ten years, there would be 'revision' in thought about blood, and that they would allow transfusions, (a conscience matter), but still forbid the eating of blood.. as to disfellowshipping, when it all hits the fan in the media, there may be a change, some time in the future regarding it.

  perhaps they will say to only 'spiritually' disfellowship the person, but not encourage the total shunning of them.. do those two hold any merit?

  what other things may change at the wtbts?

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  They'll hold the line on Jesus not being God, on no immortal soul, and on the two-class system, heavenly and earthly. There'll be some shifting of understanding of who the heavenly class are, to keep them alive and in control. The former "anointed remnant" will be represented as God-fearing and sincere, but having serving God as best they were able with incomplete knowledge and consequent incorrect understandings.

  Pretty much everything else will go by the wayside as they move toward the mainstream.

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  Is it ONLY the JW's that knew of the Anointed?

  by ElijahTheThird in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what are your understandings or knowledge about this?

  are the jw's the only ones that were given "insight" as to who the saints are?.

  for a jw info board it is interesting that there is so very little on this subject of the anointed here.

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  Nonono. We carefully examined the bathwater, pouring it out through a sieve. There was no baby.

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  "Witness CD"

  by sf in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if you haven't already visited here, please do:.

  < http://www.welcome.to/witnesscd.

  skally

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  I had a serious go at it. Battling off popups right and left (at least they didn't resize themselves to fill my screen), I slogged down into his presentation. The guy appears to have some good things to say, down in there somewhere... getting to them is the trick.

  First I read that he was going to show us how he backed the elders down and saved his wife. Then, going to the link where he was going to tell us how he did this, I read his declaration that he had backed the elders down and saved his wife, and was about to tell us all about it. Then going to another link I learned that he had backed the elders down and saved his wife, and was about to tell us how to do it. At this point I was thinking, "Stop talking about telling us, and tell us, y'idiot" when he finally started into telling his story.

  Then he claimed that his wife was disfellowshipped (before they married) for meeting with him. Not for having sex with him, mind you; for meeting with him. One for teejay's "things that make you go "hmmmm" thread, maybe?

  So I gave him the benefit of the doubt and kept reading, and he commenced with the <h1> and <h2> tags and bolded red and blue letters... you know, I'm able to grasp a point without all that.

  Eventually, I gave up. Suggestion for the guy: use a spell-checker, and then get a literate friend to proof-read it looking for syntax errors.

  I bet there's something worth reading in there, somewhere, buried under all those huge red fonts. Darn shame he ran me off before I got to it.

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  So How Active An Opponent Are You Really?

  by Englishman in

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  if you are an ex-jw, how do you rate yourself as a jw opponent?.

  are you totally live and let live?

  maybe happy to chat to someone who has doubts?

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  if I get woke up one more time from an erotic dream by the dubs knocking on my door

  A worse scenario: disturbed by a knock in the middle of the real thing.

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  REPORT - WT Elder's School

  by Zero in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  interesting report from the recent elder's school.

  thought you all might find it interesting.

  here's a link:.

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  flower - it's not possible to find concrete proof for everything that gets said here. We just have to weigh the logic and evidence (such as it is) for ourselves and decide what to accept at face value and what to doubt.

  This post appears to have been made by an elder who is still active but not blinded to the problems in the organization, who attended the elders' meeting. Ask yourself, "Who is his audience? What is his purpose in writing?"

  Likely his target audience is others who are not blindly supportive of the organization, given the nature of the board where he posted the information. Now, what reason could he have to want to deceive them about what was said in the elders' meeting?

  On the other hand, if his audience was supposed to be faithful witnesses, it takes only one elder who attended the elders' meeting, to shoot down any misrepresenations or lies. What reason would this poster have for lying in the face of such odds of being exposed as a liar?

  Of course, it's always possible to print out the report and show it to a local elder, asking him to corroborate the story.

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  Will we ever find the magic bullet.

  by sleepy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  lets just face it humans are odd.. nearly all here are proof of it.. we were able at one time to believe so fully in an idea that we gave our lives to it , and now we dont.. although this subject has been discussed many times before it is something that frustrates me , big time.. well we all at one time thought we knew it all.

  the meaning of life the real history of human kind why we die why there is suffering and many more of lifes mysteries were plain and simple to us.. gradually came the realisation that things were not as we had thought.. what was once so obvious was now so obviously wrong.. so how do humans manage to believe fervently on issues that to others make no sense?.

  is there a magic explanation or piece of logic that can convince any witness with a functioning mind the error of their beliefs?.

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  Will some one come up with such an undstandingly reasonable aurgument against Jehovahs witnesses being right ,that all but the insane will have to recant?

  Not likely. Witnesses use Orwellian tactics to avoid thinking about such things.

  Magic bullets are as individual, as subjective, as world views.

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  Rude JW response to a conversation stopper?

  by Gopher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  did you ever use this response, or know of someone who did?

  it's in page 16 of the "reasoning from the scriptures" book.

  the "conversation stopper" being addressed is, i'm not interested .. the 7th and final suggested answer for a jw publisher is as follows: is that your usual reply when jehovah's witnesses call?....have you ever wondered why we keep calling or what we have to say?....briefly, the reason is that i know something that you should know too .

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  I remember reading a really neat anecdote once, that applies here.

  A woman answered a knock on the door to find a man in a suit, with a large case (circuit-overseer size, since we're all in the know) sitting beside him and a big smile on his face.

  "Good afternoon, ma'am!" he said. "I assume from the swingset in your yard that you have children. Tell me, are you interested in your children's education?"

  "No," she answered with a smile, and shut the door.

  The article went on to explain that the woman had answered the REAL question. He wasn't asking, "Are you interested in your children's education?" He was asking, "Are you interested in buying the encyclopedias I'm selling?" So she cut to the chase, saving both herself and him a lot of time.

  I've remembered this story ever since, because of the impact it had on me; it was an epiphanic moment. I've used the principle often since then.

  "Have you ever wondered why we keep calling or what we have to say?"

  "Nope. Bye." (close)

  COMF