Congratulations and Happy Anniversary Here's to many more
Twin
yes, it is 6 years today since i entered a kingdom hall for the very last time, and with each passing year this particular "anniversary" gets happier.
even better this time, i have so many people to share it with who have had the same kind of jw experiences as me, in the past the friends i have made since leaving the lie kind of acknowledged it, but didn't really understand, so i just want you all to share in my joy today.
dedpoet
Congratulations and Happy Anniversary Here's to many more
Twin
i don't know if this thread has been done before, but can anybody think of times that jehovah's witnesses were made mention of or joked about in music, tv, or movies?
for example,there are a couple of simpsons episodes, one were marge alludes to being so desperate for company that jehovah's witnesses ran away when she went to get them more lemonade.
another time, two jw's approach the simpsons' house and one turns to the other just before ringing the doorbell and asks "ruby, do you ever think we should get real jobs?".
There's a new series called Threshold. An episode a month of so ago had something like this:
"We've got to lock up the aliens. They are trying to convert everyone." (words to that affect)
"So are Jehovah's Witnesses and we're not locking them up."
mulan said:dave had celebrated christmas until he was 15 so informed me we had to play christmas music while decorating the tree.
it definitely changed the atmosphere.
i will post photos when they are developed.. .
We assign each person someone to buy new jammies for. Christmas Eve we all get to open those.
There are good and bad people in any organization and I'm sure there's a lot of corruption. My daughter has been a cop for a year now and it really distresses her that people think poorly of them. She's the one who arrests the young kids' parents for being tweakers or morons and they see it as the cops being bad and not the criminal. It's a hard call but I'd have to say not all are bad....
Twin
i tried to edit part 6, but once again the system ate my notes.
so i will try here.. talk # 22: trust the faithful and discreet slave - brother sico .
synopsis: we can trust the faithful and discreet slave (fds).
I may be giving away my age, but every time I see FDS, I think of Feminine Deodorant Spray. Which would be most beneficial?
as many of you know, i have a myspace.com account.. apparently, while i was out last night, someone called my mother and informed her of my activities on myspace.
my mother called and asked me for my login info, and was shocked to see me, and around 40 witnesses in my area having active profiles.
contents of these profile ranged from a few pictures to downright self-incrimination.
I hope things go well for you RR. I've enjoyed reading your posts and hope you find a way to get back to us soon.
Twin
i have never been to a congregation where they had a third hall for talks.
is it rare to have a third school?
We had them in 2 different halls I attended. The 3rd was always very small and used for newer people that were too nervous for larger groups. Plus it was such a large group, it was the only way for people to have talks with any regularity.
i'm back!
with more questions for "unbelieving mates" of jehovah's witnesses, or ubm's.
tetrapod, i haven't forgotten you, and i'm working on a follow-up thread on friendships as well.
1. How did your mixed marriage happen?
a) Committed to each other knowing the other had different beliefs.
b) Your partner became a JW afterwards.
c) You left the JW's afterwards. We came in together after married and then I left it after 20+ years.
d) Other - explain!
2. Did the two of you talk about your different beliefs and how you were raised before you committed to the other? We had both been spiritully minded before marriage and had been friends for years. He studied with the JWs shortly before our marriage but never mentioned them to me. He wanted to study with them again but I felt very reserved about it. I should have stayed that way!
3. How many times a month or week (whatever is easier to describe) does spiritual subjects come up in your home? Oh gawd...it was very heated when I faded in 1999. I didn't have his level of JW 'understanding' and could not even come close to convincing him about the lies of the JWs with what I found through research. The discussions slowed down for a while but seem to have picked up again; probably since I started coming here and feel more verbal again. Just a week or so ago he said maybe it was best if we never discussed religion with each other again because it has become a very sore subject.
4. How do you relate/interact with other witnesses or congregation members? My exposure is very limited. I faded in a different area so no one really knows me here. There have been several people drop by to 'encourage' me (including a DO) but I told my husband that I would prefer that they didn't. I told him it wasn't very fair to them that I am an open apostate and they don't seem to be aware of that. I'm sure they would be apalled to know they even spoke with me.
5. Do you talk to non-JW family about your JW spouse? My friends at work are aware of my challenges and are very supportive. My children are also very understanding and supportive of my situation. Two of them are faders and the rest were never baptized.
6. Are you an "opposing mate"? Well.....I told my husband that I hate the JW religion with as much passion as I've ever had about anything in my life and that they ruin families and relationships. I have not tried to hide my feelings about the WBTS and proudly boast my apostate status. So....I guess so.
7. If you are a Christian, what are the most contentious subjects with your JW spouse? I absolutely hate the arrogance and judmentalness of the JWs in general.
8. If you are an Agnostic/Athiest, what are the most contentious subjects with your JW spouse? I really don't know what I am or what I believe anymore but almost any JW subject becomes very heated and I am very bitter towards the beliefs.
9. When/how/what made you realize your marriage/family was threatened by your spouse's JW affiliation? My husband stated (to my children) very shortly after I stopped attending meetings that he would divorce me if he ever thought I was actively opposed. I've brought that statement up several times, saying I don't know how I could be any more opposed than I am. I think in his mind he justifies his tolerance of me because he never hears me speaking to anyone else abusively about the JWs and I have never picketed an assembly. In the past, our family's relationship was very threatened when our oldest daughter was disfellowshipped and we had to shun her. When a witch hunt began for our son who had faded, I threw in the towel and said I would never again do something so unloving to my family.
10. My favorite question, anything else to add? Did I mention I hate the WBTS? This is the hardest thing I have ever done in my life. As I have stated before, I love my husband but he now tells me he loves me too but stays with me because it is the right thing to do because people in general have no moral comittment to marriage and as a Christian, he has that moral obligation. Nice, huh? Personally, I think he stays for the sex because there are no grounds for a divorce and he couldn't live without it.
"please pass the tortillas".
while the writer obviously enjoys tortillas i wonder if it saddens him that the culture that created the tasty tortilla will soon be slaughtered at har-mageddon?
Observe the humble tortilla chip .... evidence of a loving creator ...[see completely irrelevant and unrelated non tortilla based scripture in Ezekiel about nearing the time of the end]...
ROFL crumpet
it's been a while since this topic has been brought up.
use it as a chance to see if there is someone you might know from years past.
1973-1976 --- lakeside, ca??
1976-1987 - Kingman, AZ
1987-1994 - Payson/Spanish Fork/American Fork/Provo UT (mostly Spanish Fork)
1994-1995 - Southfield, MI
1995-1998 - Campbell, CA
1998 - Free at last!!