Come on--SOMEBODY must know how to sing! ;)
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A Part of the World
by comment inbrothers and sisters, let's rise now and join in the singing of song number 24, "a part of the world.
" it's loosely based on john 17:16.. a part of the world.
although god once set us apart,.
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A factual summary of the WT-UN issue
by comment inwhat i've written here is a straightforward, easy-to-digest, basic factual summary of the issue.
feel free to send it to anyone you like or post it anywhere.. .
an ngo is a non-governmental organization.. according to the definition used by the united nations (un), ngos operate on a non-profit basis, perform humanitarian work and advocate various causes with governments.. more than 1,500 ngos have voluntarily applied to cooperate with the department of public information (dpi) of the un.. in order for the un to accept an application, an ngo must agree to build support for the un and to disseminate information about it to their members.. the watchtower society voluntarily applied to cooperate with the dpi of the un in 1991. the application was successful.. the contact person listed on the application was lloyd barry, a member of the governing body of jehovah's witnesses.. for many years, the watchtower society has identified the un as the "scarlet-colored wild beast" and "the disgusting thing" of bible prophecy.. the watchtower society has repeatedly stated that the un blasphemes by setting itself up as mankind's best hope for world peace rather than promoting god's kingdom.. the watchtower society has repeatedly condemned religions that cooperate with the un, identifying them as "babylon the great, the mother of the harlots and the disgusting things of the earth.".
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What I've written here is a straightforward, easy-to-digest, basic factual summary of the issue. Feel free to send it to anyone you like or post it anywhere.
An NGO is a Non-Governmental Organization.
According to the definition used by the United Nations (UN), NGOs operate on a non-profit basis, perform humanitarian work and advocate various causes with governments.
More than 1,500 NGOs have voluntarily applied to cooperate with the Department of Public Information (DPI) of the UN.
In order for the UN to accept an application, an NGO must agree to build support for the UN and to disseminate information about it to their members.
The Watchtower Society voluntarily applied to cooperate with the DPI of the UN in 1991. The application was successful.
The contact person listed on the application was Lloyd Barry, a member of the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses.
For many years, the Watchtower Society has identified the UN as the "scarlet-colored wild beast" and "the disgusting thing" of Bible prophecy.
The Watchtower Society has repeatedly stated that the UN blasphemes by setting itself up as mankind's best hope for world peace rather than promoting God's Kingdom.
The Watchtower Society has repeatedly condemned religions that cooperate with the UN, identifying them as "Babylon the Great, the mother of the harlots and the disgusting things of the earth."
Since 1991, the Watchtower Society has never informed Jehovah's Witnesses about its status as a UN NGO.
Since 1991, the Watchtower Society has published a wide range of articles in its journals, The Watchtower and Awake!, disseminating information about the activities of the UN.
A description of the responsibilities of UN NGOs can be found at this Web address:
http://www.un.org/MoreInfo/ngolink/brochure.htm
A list of UN NGOs, including the Watchtower Society, can be found at this Web address:
http://www.un.org/MoreInfo/ngolink/ngodir/NGODirAlph/alphabet.htm
Some other UN NGOs include the Salvation Army, the Executive Council of the Episcopal Church, and the World Muslim Congress.
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Ridiculous trips to the 'back room'
by Esmeralda inthe posts in the elders meeting thread got me thinking about this, so i've spun it off for into another thread.. were you ever 'counseled' because "some" in the congregation were disturbed by things you said/did/listened to/watched?.
here is just some of the stupid stuff that the elders brought me in on.
though they were usually handled through shepherding calls, not in the back room at the kh.. 1: because i decided to change my first and middle names.
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Harold King was always a little strange after he came back from China. He really didn't like to be around people much anymore and talked a lot to himself. All of which is perfectly understandable in light of his long confinement.
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A Part of the World
by comment inbrothers and sisters, let's rise now and join in the singing of song number 24, "a part of the world.
" it's loosely based on john 17:16.. a part of the world.
although god once set us apart,.
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Brothers and sisters, let's rise now and join in the singing of Song Number 24, "A Part of the World." It's loosely based on John 17:16.
A PART OF THE WORLD
Although God once set us apart,
Lloyd Barry had a change of heart.
A part of the UN are we;
Since '91 we chose to be.All worldly trends we used to avoid,
But with the harlot we're now employed.
From beastly things we don't abstain;
We're joining in so we'll remain.The UN's friendship we cultivate,
Just one more thing God tolerates.
Yes, persecution we expect,
But the UN will us protect.So we'll sit back and wait for new light;
The faithful slave must have this one right.
We'll publish nice things in Awake!,
And of UN care we'll partake. -
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UNITED NATIONS , NGO's and WTBS
by MacHislopp infollowing the link given by kent,.
i have several observation to make:.
(from the link : http://www.un.org/moreinfo/ngolink/brochure.htm).
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"Yes, Brother Elder, I appreciate your concerns. But in my personal opinion, voting in this election won't make me 'part of the world.' I don't think that it will interfere with my duties as a spiritual ambassador if I vote for someone to care for temporal affairs in the period before Christ takes control of the earth. I am prepared to shoulder partial responsibility for the actions of the candidate I vote for. I'm not going to be dogmatic about how great my choice is or encourage others in the congregation to vote the same way, so there's no need to worry that my voting will affect the unity of the congregation. And when I go door to door, I won't discuss who I voted for with the householders, but if asked, I'll tell them that I made a personal decision and I'd like to keep that decision personal. I'm glad we were able to talk this over, Brother Elder, and I have no problem with whether you personally choose to vote or not. See you at the meeting tomorrow--wasn't that an excellent Watchtower study about the Christian view of the United Nations?"
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Exercise--Is It For Christians?
by comment inexcerpted from a future issue of the watchtower:.
in modern times, great emphasis has been laid upon diet and exercise, particularly in western lands.
people are often impressed by the physiques of athletes and movie stars presented in the media.
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Bridgette,
bttt stands for "back to the top" (of the discussion board).
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Tape record Oct. 7 meeting
by comment incould anyone who is attending the special meeting on october 7 arrange to tape record it?.
it would probably not be that hard to bring in one of those mini-cassette recorders and at least capture part of what is said.. i am sure others who are unable to attend the meeting would be interested in hearing a recording.
and if it turns out to be a "historic occasion," it would be nice for the world to have a document of it.. comment
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Could anyone who is attending the special meeting on October 7 arrange to tape record it?
It would probably not be that hard to bring in one of those mini-cassette recorders and at least capture part of what is said.
I am sure others who are unable to attend the meeting would be interested in hearing a recording. And if it turns out to be a "historic occasion," it would be nice for the world to have a document of it.
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Question on Teaching UN is Beast to recruits?
by hawkaw inquestion to you intelligent jws and exjws.. does the wt, through its knowledge book or whatever, make sure new recruits know who the scarlet coloured wild beast is or disgusting thing is (ie, the un), who is part of the great harlot etc before becoming full blown jws?.
like should new recruits know this off by heart thanks to the rote teaching?.
hawk
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From 1995 onward (and I believe this has just changed recently, in terms of a return to a more extended Bible study program), those studying to become one of Jehovah's Witnesses would optimally go through the book Knowledge That Leads to Everlasting Life (1995) in six months (most took longer, a few less).
That book contains NO references to either the League of Nations or the United Nations, positive or negative.
Interestingly, the book passes up an opportunity to refer explicitly to the UN on page 106 under the subheading "Respond to the Evidence."
It says: "How will this system end? The Bible foretells a 'great tribulation' that will begin with an attack by this world's political element upon 'Babylon the Great,' the world empire of false religion. (Matthew 24:21; Revelation 17:5, 16)"
By contrast, the Revelation Climax (1988) book is much more explicit when it states in chapter 28: "Yes, the nations will use the scarlet-colored wild beast, the United Nations, in destroying Babylon the Great. They do not act on their own initiative, for Jehovah puts it into their hearts 'even to carry out their one thought by giving their kingdom to the wild beast.' When the time comes, the nations will evidently see the need to strengthen the United Nations. They will give it teeth, as it were, lending it whatever authority and power they possess so that it can turn upon false religion and fight successfully against her 'until the words of God will have been accomplished.' Thus, the ancient harlot will come to her complete end. And good riddance to her!"
Having completed a study of the Knowledge book, the prospective baptismal candidate, by now participating in the door-to-door ministry and "living according to Bible standards," would go through the baptismal questions on pages 175-218 of the book Organized to Accomplish Our Ministry (1983), with several elders.
The Organized book contains NO references to either the League of Nations or the United Nations.
If the questions were answered successfully, the person could now get baptized.
Therefore, depending on what materials were discussed at congregation meetings during the period of an interested person's Bible study, I believe it would have been POSSIBLE, at least for a good portion of the 1990's, for a person to become one of Jehovah's Witnesses without knowing whom the Society identifies as the scarlet-colored wild beast or the disgusting thing.
I'd be interested to see what others have to say on this matter.
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WT/UN References-Dan. Creator. Proc. Rev.
by messenger inbelow are the references made to the un from four wt publications.
it is interesting how anyone who had any association with the un were completely condemned to destruction by wt.
this is too funny..... .
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re is Revelation--Its Grand Climax at Hand!, published in 1988. It features the Society's analysis of the book of Revelation.
jv is Jehovah's Witnesses--Proclaimers of God's Kingdom, published in 1993. It is the official history of Jehovah's Witnesses.
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Exercise--Is It For Christians?
by comment inexcerpted from a future issue of the watchtower:.
in modern times, great emphasis has been laid upon diet and exercise, particularly in western lands.
people are often impressed by the physiques of athletes and movie stars presented in the media.
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bttt for the non-weekend crowd...