i wanted to ask you if you have ever studied about the "peg of shebna"?
the bible talks about 2 pegs.
the first one, shebna was the "stewart over the household of god".
I think your interpretation is a bit of a stretch, to put it mildly. To say that the Society was 'thrown down' when Rutherford took over makes about as much sense that Satan was 'hurled down' to the earth in 1914, or that the two-horned wild beast suffered a death stroke during WW1.
The pegs surely just applied to the characters back then, Shebna and Eliakim, or whoever it was.
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......the silent lambs......the raped, beaten and molested.....the accused, humiliated and ostracized....... ......their struggles in the past.......... ......their struggles in the present.......... please, be candid and make it from the heart, if you will.. there's a very good reason for this.. thanks in advance,.
frannie
Is this for just anyone or just actual victims?
I wouldn't even presume to try and describe in my own words what they have suffered.
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just wanted to say a final goodbye before our internet gets disconnected and we move into new house.
i prob wont be on for a few weeks, so take care everyone miss ya heaps.
awwww, aint that sweet.
i'm d/f for about 2 years and my dad ( an elder ) hasn't spoke with me since, my mom sometimes talk to me , but i always have to call her , just to see how's she's doing, and guess what, when she answer her phone is : oh, i was preeching!!!.
they're always preeching, but my brother contact me today telling me that we can speak again due to the fact that i'm d/f , what do you guys think?
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Yep. There are different levels and degrees of being brainwashed, but in any context any group of persons is being brainwashed where:
1 The leaders of the group deliberately advise the members to avoid at all costs reading anything against the group
2 There is a consistent repetition of certain messages and themes, eg, JW's are repeatedly told that the end is 'close', 'at hand', 'near' etc.
I agree too that nearly everyone on this planet has been brainwashed and indoctrinated to some extent.
I think David Icke has some good stuff to say, but he totally ruins his credibility with this kind of ridiculous crap about alien reptiles posing as humans. Apparently he believes it on the advice of some African witch-doctor dude. Icke has also published that President Bush, Clinton, etc, etc, regularly engage in ritualistic child sex abuse and all sorts of other crazy stuff that is just way too left field for me.
i will start by apologizing for the following rant and i hope i do not bore everyone but this is on my mind.
i had an epiphany.
it may have been a segment on the today show, a short piece about catholics and celibacy that started the thought process.
Good on you. I am in the same boat and have just enrolled to go to Varsity, at the ripe age of 38. I've given the big finger to the arbitrary rules whims of a control-freak religious organisation.
When you're old and nearing death, there are only 3 things you will ultimately measure the worth of your life by: The richness of your experiences, how much you loved others and how much they loved you.
GO FOR IT!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,,1687735,00.html
edited to make link clickable ~ scully
I was rather disappointed by the article. It has a number of factual errors, some of which have been brought out, which will cause loyal dubs to doubt its credibility. It also starts off by referring to a whole lot of old discarded beliefs and portrays them as if they are still current beliefs held by JW's. (vaccinations, organ transplants, etc). JW's will merely dismiss it as sensationalism by a reporter with a personal grudge against them. And what sort of journalist cannot even get the official figures of JW membership correct.
The example of quotes from the site was weak too. Why didn't Bates put up something a little more dramatic, like a quote about selling homes and possession to go preaching before 1975 or something similar, or a quote about the 1914 generation not ending.
It also totally failed to capture the irony and hypocrisy of the fact that the Watchtower has fought for it's own freedom of speech in many international Courts yet here it has crushed a website that only contained official quotes from JW publications.
i picked up the march copy of the awake!
magzine, looking to find more "emphasis on the bible.
to tell you the truth, there is absolutely nothing of the kind!
You are right. What a complete joke the Awake magazine is. It's basically about as spiritually edifying as the readers digest.
1 our study of the scriptures has revealed to us the many wonderful promises jehovah has made.
but who will inherit these?
the apostle paul, writing the hebrews, answers: "god is not unrighteous so as to forget your work and the love you showed for his name, in that you have ministered to the holy ones and continue ministering.
What issues are your quotes from Rooster?
Christians naturally should do good works that follow faith. There's no questioning that in the bible. The problem with JW's is that there definition of 'works' is all twisted, ie, predominantly to them 'works' means offering Watchtower & Awake magazines on a Saturday morning in order to put in a nice field service report and to ensure they continue have the respect of everyone else in their book study group/congregation.
magazines that advocate truth.
3 jehovah is "the god of truth.
" (psalm 31:5) his word, the bible, is a book of truth.
Where are you getting your quotes from Rooster? Be a good lad and put the references up
