Only if they dropped about 50% of their teachings, fanatical policies, and organisational structure, and replaced them with more emphasis on Christ. Which would mean they would be a totally new religion.
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Would you ever consider going back to the JW''s?
by fullofdoubtnow indedpoet and myself were asked this question last night.
we went round to his local to celebrate my da announcement (made on tuesday 22nd november).
it was his idea, to "drink a toast to freedom", but i was up for it as well, and we ran into a former brother and his girlfriend.
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What are WT's most abusive features?
by IT Support in.
if you were granted a wish to change wt's worst features, what would you want changed?
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letting babies, toddlers, and children die for want of a blood transfusion is the most obviously abusive. the 2 witness rule for child abuse allegations to be dealt with by elders is the next most obviously heinous.
JW's don't treat their kiddies very well.
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Weekly Bible Reading, Nov. 28 - Dec. 4, 2005
by TheListener in2 chronicles 6:1-42 1 it was then that sol omon said: jehovah himself said he was to reside in the thick gloom; 2 and i, for my part, have built a house of lofty abode for you and an established place for you to dwell in to time indefinite.
13 (for sol omon had made a platform of copper and then put it in the middle of the enclosure.
its length was five cubits, and its width five cubits, and its height three cubits; and he kept standing upon it.
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JGnat, JW's are convinced they have Jehovah's blessing cuz they almost exclusively teach the truth about who God is (ie, not a trinity), the truth about the condition of the dead, and the truth about what the Kingdom of God really is and what it will accomplish. they feel this almost unique doctrinal position is a restoration of primitive christianity and coupled with their significant numerical growth (though tapering off in recent years) this convinces them that they alone must have God's blessing.
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Do you think that JW's leaders are going to announce a new date in 2006?
by booker-t ini was reading a thread here the other and it mentioned that the assembly for 2006 will be "delivance at hand".
is this going to be like 1974 when every jw's thought the end was going to come in 1975?
i don't think jw's leaders would be that stupid again and build jw's for another date-setting letdown.
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If the end doesn't come by 2014 the WTS will resort more and more to the 120 year link to 1914, which they have already alluded to, as an attempt to stave off the mass dissilusionment that will set in after the 100th anniversary of Christ's invisible rule that never was. The org survived the 1975 and 1994 'this generation' fiascos. So my guess is that when it comes to the crunch they will not hesitate to dangle yet another chronological speculation out there.
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Do you think that the Watchtower and Awake Mags are Idols?
by MsMcDucket ini remember thinking that the magazines were "holy".
i was afraid to throw them away.
isn't this like idol worship?
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JW's view each Watchtower study article like a personal letter from Jehovah.
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Elders School Part 3: Your talks kinda blow, brothers...
by sir82 inin the interest of completeness, i will post this part of my notes as well, even though it was not as controversial as other parts.
more controversial and/or ridiculous astatements to follow in later postings.
talk 9: preparing talks for the congregation - brothr local elder
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Ve must have conformity!
RTFLMAO!
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Elder's School Notes Part 1: Quit being so materialistic, you slackers!
by sir82 inask, and ye shall receive.. i will herewith post my notes from the km06 elders school i recently attended.
i will post this in 6 parts, to give people a chance to read smaller chunks and comment on them.. a couple of introductory notes: i wrote an awful lot of stuff, and will not post everything.
for each talk, i will post 3 sections: (1) general synopsis, (2) personal thoughts & observations, (3) particularly egregious quotations.. the primary speakers, who delivered more than 1/2 of the talks, were a circuit overseer and a guest from brooklyn bethel.. to protect anonymity, we will refer to the sadly inane circuit overseer as brother sico.. and the old-timer lifelong brother from bethel, completely out of touch, as brother bethel-coot.. one more introductory comment: it seems the main points the society wanted to send to elders were:.
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The Society tells the elders to stop being materialistic, yet it hordes 100's of millions and spends it on lavish complexes out at Patterson that do not even have one printing facility. What hypocrites. The Society is obsessed with newer and better buildings, thus many elders reflect the same attitude when it comes to their family home, even after the kids are gone.
I'm amazed they havn't been hammering the internet. Surely that is now the bigger threat than materialism.
And again we see that the rock that the organisation is built up on is not Jesus Christ. The foundation upon which JW-world is built up on is a perpetually reinforced expectation that THE END IS NIGH.
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Underground Reformed JW movement
by RealNewLight inthis is a movement which has been growing slowly but steadily among young people in spanish and portuguese speaking congregations in the united states.
basically it is a movement created by winesses who believe in much of the teachings of the organization, but do not believe in the authority of the wts, or any other body.
they also do not believe in disfellowshiping, and believe that every decision should be a personal conscience matter.
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I can't agree at all with you Ozziepost and Honda.
JWfacts has it right: "But it is a unique Org due to the Trinity teaching. So it can survive for the non-trinitarian worshipper with emphasis on conscience as the Underground movement appears to be pushing."
If you strip away absolutely everything re chronology, 1914, blood doctrine, shunning, false prophecies, etc,etc there are 3 main doctrines that will always set JW's apart as very distinct from broader Christendom:
Non-trinitarian (monotheistic)
Mortality of the soul
2 hopes for mankind - heavenly and earthly.
I didn't include their anti-hellfire belief as many churches in Christendom have gone away from a literal hellfire teaching, even some fundamental churches.
There are other groups with a similar framework of doctrine, but they are few and far between.
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An interesting "paranormal" experience, that was actually "normal"
by AlmostAtheist inso last night i was in the basement.
it was dark, just the light in the crawl space was on.
i happened to see something moving out of the corner of my eye, so i turned.
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the ouija board. no one can tell me it is my own mind moving that dial. definitely proves to me there is a spirit realm.
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Underground Reformed JW movement
by RealNewLight inthis is a movement which has been growing slowly but steadily among young people in spanish and portuguese speaking congregations in the united states.
basically it is a movement created by winesses who believe in much of the teachings of the organization, but do not believe in the authority of the wts, or any other body.
they also do not believe in disfellowshiping, and believe that every decision should be a personal conscience matter.
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"Perhaps the movement you speak of is the disturbing news the Elders have been concerned with last week"
Hey Tophat, what is this 'disturbing news' the elders have been concerned about??