Posts by freedomlover

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JWD forum is another battleground for your souls.

by Spectrum in

if you think about it, it's true.

what's the difference?

constant shifting sands, one minute the grains are over here then we seek to blow them over there.

freedomlover

amen.

ahem....kettle......pot........black?

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PROCESS: I don't belong in this world....yet.

by freedomlover in

i have been reading a book my hubby recommended to me- man's search for meaning - by viktor frankl.

very good book.

he is a survivor of nazi concentration camps and it's not just another grisly tale of horrors of cc life.

wow, I haven't checked this thread for a few days and I was so surprised to see all the responses.

thanks to all of you.

I suppose Narkissos you hit a "nail on the head" for me. I've always been able to superficially "fit in" with my group whatever that may be at the time. I'm done with the superficial having to fit in so as to "show love to the whole association of brothers." How screwed up was that?! It's stifling to put that many people together and actually try to make them all "get along." I'm finally getting more comfortable with the idea that a lot of people aren't going to like me - and that's FINE!

However - there are very few people in my life that really "get" me. Those people have been very few and far between. I suppose my numbness is in part to the idea that I've left people from the JW's that I thought really knew me - however now, they wouldn't even recognize my dramatically changed soul. - who could blame them? I don't recognize my own soul most days! -

I've always FELT everything. I remember being scolded as a child for how *emotional* I could be. I always thought my high receptive and emotional state was a gift and now, not being able to feel - is so foreign and almost physically painful to me in some ways.

I am trying to "feel" again. It is returning slowly. I am a person that has trouble at times "letting" things happen. I'm usually trying to make things happen. This lesson is a strong one for me. To just let this process happen at it's own pace.

thanks for the words from all of you.

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Wow

by KW13 in

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friends

well, thank you to everyone for your advice and comments so far.

some of you said post and tell ya what its been going.. lastnight i went on a walk (midnight one, cos i was desperate to just start lol).

today went to see grandma over the road, stayed off my pc till gone 3pm.

freedomlover

errrr..... okay.....I'm out of ideas then...

let me know how your day goes tomorrow. :)

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Wow

by KW13 in

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friends

well, thank you to everyone for your advice and comments so far.

some of you said post and tell ya what its been going.. lastnight i went on a walk (midnight one, cos i was desperate to just start lol).

today went to see grandma over the road, stayed off my pc till gone 3pm.

freedomlover

you should get a dog - it would get you out for walks/exercise numerous times a day! besides having a dog is soooo great!

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Weird Topic!

by 5thGeneration in

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worst thing anyone you knew in "the truth" did.. mine is an ms i played sports with df'd for bestiality!

freedomlover

okay - we just got the scoop on this couple who were recently divorced from our old cong. - she was reproved because she messed around with another COUPLE! that's right her and the husband and wife - BUT the husband of this couple was her first COUSIN!!!!! YIKES!!! LOL!

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Wow

by KW13 in

jw
friends

well, thank you to everyone for your advice and comments so far.

some of you said post and tell ya what its been going.. lastnight i went on a walk (midnight one, cos i was desperate to just start lol).

today went to see grandma over the road, stayed off my pc till gone 3pm.

freedomlover

hey KW -

been wondering how you were doing. good for you for changing your day up! I got a full time job, am renovating our 1930 house we bought, and I'm a mom and wife so I'm really busy - helps me deal with stuff when I'm busy and not on the MAC all day.

being outside helps me a lot also. keep in touch - have a good night - freedomlover

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The Bribe of Heaven and The Threat of Hell.

by Blueblades in

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which is it that cause you to believe that either teaching from the bible is truly the truth.

is the desire to want to go to heaven the reason you believe what you believe, or is it the fear and threat of hell that makes you walk the line so to speak.. i don't believe that god needs to or has ever bribed or threathened anyone with 'do this or else.

' i believe what is written about god in the bible are the words of men.

freedomlover

I have reached the same conclusions BB.

LT's *experience* is something I am envious of some days. What sort of experience can give you such reverance for Christianity? Most times when I contemplate these things, I wish for an *experience* - seems like it may make my path a little less complicated. probably not though. just a case of "the grass is always greener."

I love the idea, the aura, that the idea of xianty deals with. the ideals, the thougths, - beautiful. poetry in motion. however, I am not a "Christian" or any other label for that matter.

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Just recieved this email off my mum

by Es in

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hey all got a text this morning that they had sent me an email opened it straight away, here is there email and my reply.. .

esther,.

we hope this message clarifies some misconceptions you may have.

freedomlover

oh ES, so sorry for the mind games... :(

we have been getting those kinds of letters from "loving" family members. they have been sending warped notes to our kids also - we've intervened on those. Like one from there grandma where she sends a letter about how much she misses them and yet at the same time sends pics of her working at a job about 1/2 hour from our new home and yet she didn't call or come see them. Hmm...that doesn't make any sense?! Then she adds all this stuff about the Memorial and how "mommy and daddy know all about the memorial - so you can ask them about it." BITE ME!!

we won't play the passive aggressive games with these people. good for you for protecting yourself and your children from such toxic people!!

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Comments You Will Not Hear at the 5-21-06 WT Study (I AM WITH YOU)

by blondie in

comments you will not hear at the 5-21-06 wt study (april 15, 2006 issue date, pages 20-24)(with you).

review comments will be in red.

wt material from today's wt will be in black.

freedomlover

thanks again blondie! another great review.

BTW - where did you get the info. for the numbers on stats for the hours, pubs, memorial attendance, etc.?

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PROCESS: I don't belong in this world....yet.

by freedomlover in

i have been reading a book my hubby recommended to me- man's search for meaning - by viktor frankl.

very good book.

he is a survivor of nazi concentration camps and it's not just another grisly tale of horrors of cc life.

freedomlover

wow! Dido - I was just reading your thread about the seeing the queen and how it was just something to do to feel like a "normal" person! good for you! that's the kind of stuff we've been doing also. my kids and hubby did mother's day for me this past sunday and it feels so foreign yet really good also. It is like we were on another planet.

Van gogh - thank you. it is so amazing to know someone on the other side of the planet can relate to my experience. just knowing you aren't alone in this journey can make all the difference in healing from this process.