Its Deemonz Deemonz Deemonz you should be So Scared and Read the Watchtower about the Devil.... Everything in the world is from the Devil be scared tonight with the lights out or they'll grab ya in your sleep! Feer Feer Feer ! Worship Worship Worship !
toby888
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Accident prone/Gremlins in the house -what is going on?
by Crumpet ini was busy reading posts on the board just now when i noticed a strange noise.
i went into the kitchebn and the electric kettle i had put on to boil some 15 minutes earlier was still boiling and the whole kitchen filled with steam to the point some of the cupboards had started to blister and nothing was visible - it was like being on the yorkshire moors.
i can find no reason for this!
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Did you smile and love bomb as a JW?
by greendawn inwhile jws can you recall having that artificial smile and sweet, smooth way of talking at the doors?
also did you participate in the deceitful love bombing of newly interested persons in your kingdom hall?
it was all part of the artificial charm meant to entice unsuspecting victims into the wts nets.
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toby888
I used to but I don't have the stomach for it anymore. I wouldn't wish this "religion" on my worst enemy. I hope newcomers get discouraged and leave. I stay well away from 'em, for their own good.
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My first topic, my struggles with the dubs.
by the_leander infirst and formost i'd like to say thankyou to everyone who has ever posted here before, your posts have made me laugh, cry smile and frown.
up until about two weeks ago, i was nervous about posting here, tonight, at 5:04am as i write this, i am no longer so, the fact of the matter is, i really don't give a damn as to whether or not someone in the local congrigation reads this or not.
i'm not a jw, i never have been, and barring getting really steamingly drunk for a good few years on the trot or suffering some other similarly catastrophic brain trauma, i never will be.
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toby888
I feel your pain. Keep strong. There is nothing wrong with you... it's the stupid cult.
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Another dream...
by toby888 ini have been having what i think are some rather theraputic dreams, had one again last night... mind you i have never been interested in dream anaysis or believed that dreams are anything more than mental garbage but since my mental trauma a few months ago when i discovered my belief system was false, well, have been occasionally having dreams i can remember.
i suppose some of you may recall my last post about another dream i had... but here is my new one.. i am in an open grassy field when snow, wind and lighting begins, very fiercly.
the wind becomes so strong i feel i must anchor myself somehow.
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toby888
I have been having what I think are some rather theraputic dreams, had one again last night... mind you I have never been interested in dream anaysis or believed that dreams are anything more than mental garbage but since my mental trauma a few months ago when I discovered my belief system was false, well, have been occasionally having dreams I can remember. I suppose some of you may recall my last post about another dream I had... but here is my new one.
I am in an open grassy field when snow, wind and lighting begins, very fiercly. The wind becomes so strong I feel I must anchor myself somehow. There is a chain link fence to my left which goes far into the distance, so I throw myself to the ground at the base of the fence and hold on for dear life as the wind picks up to an incredible speed. As I hold on with my face to the ground I hear an animal roar directly abouve me, like a primordial predator, perhaps a big cat. I momentarily tremble in fear, then I become enraged at the creature threatening me. The rage and adrenaline causes me to overcome my trembling. I am filled with anger at this creature and I start to raise myself up and turn my head to face it. I become determined to destroy this hated creature an I let out a scream of anger.. I actually woke myself and my wife up as this point. I remember my primal scream, there was not a tinge of fear in it, just a good deep throaty primate intimidation scream that would make our earlier Homo Erectus ancestors proud.I felt very relaxed and strong after this dream, I as I write I am even less fearful of the Borg. Almost no fear now, in fact, I feel embarrassed having ever been afraid of these men.
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WT Dec 1st 2005, calls us "pests" to be exterminated
by BluesBrother inok, if somebody has commented on this article before, well i guess i missed it.
this really got my goat though .
it really plumbs the depths of sadistic, heartless, thinking .
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toby888
It's ironic that Hitler once referred to the Witnesses as "vermin"... Animal Farm.
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Has the exodus begun now?
by toby888 inanyone have any real information if the great exodus has begun?
tickle my ears-
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toby888
Anyone have any real information if the great Exodus has begun? Tickle my ears-
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I just want to be a normal person again.
by toby888 ini don't want to be "special".
i don't want to believe stuff i don't belive in anymore.
i'm tired of feeling isolated from humanity.
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toby888
I don't want to be "special". I don't want to believe stuff I don't belive in anymore. I'm tired of feeling isolated from humanity. I'm tired of hearing self-righteous bigotry against other religions and gays and lesbians and anybody else the JW's say are "wicked". I like everybody. I want everybody to be happy. If they shun me fine if that's your religion and it makes you happy then fine shun me. I'm so tired of it all. Half the cong. is on prozac.
I had a dream last night- I was with some Scientology guys and they were introducing me to their newest members. All the new members had gross deformities of some sort, and as they introduced themselves to me it was all I could to keep from letting out some expression of horror. I had to be polite and say "pleased to meet you" to a man with a shrunken head and exposed internal organs. Now I realize that the ones who get into the JW cult maybe are broken people, and maybe for a while the org. works for them. It's when you get well and are forced to stay in from fear of man that you get sick. I am beginning to think that it really is for me "leave or die".
Just wanted share this with everyone.
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What religions did you seek since leaving? Or not?
by dezpbem ini'm curious how many people on the board have looked into other religions or spirituality groups since they've left the jw.. what have you looked into?
did you join anything else?
read up on any others?
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toby888
I'm still in the unenviable position of leaving the JW cult. I have decided to completely discard from my life any and all non-falsifiable belief systems and believe only what we learn from factual evidence through the scientific method. For me this is the only way we can learn what is real, and sometimes the truth is tough to take but that's the way reality is.
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Black magic victims.
by greendawn inthe jws always try to frighten their members by telling them that disobedience can open them up to demonic attack and we know this is nothing but a mind game to keep them in subjection.
however it is claimed that certain occultists are paid by resentful people to cast spells against those that they hate eg to ruin their families, businesses or make them ill or depressed.
these occultists are people co operating with demons channelling their destructive energies through black magic against fellow humans.
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toby888
Be I learned "the lie" I wasn't superstious at all. Ironically I became fear-permeated when I became a JW. Now that I'm onto them, I have begun to realize that this demon stuff is actually used to enslave the mind. As a JW I had to worry about garage sales "evil charms" like demonized clothes, etc.Now I realize on the gleaming wings of reason that these things do not exist. I'm free. The human mind is very suggestible and can often see and hear things that aren't real, even when completly sane. Superstistions and beliefs in demons play off this human characteristic much to the delight of religious tyrants. Reason is setting me free! Thanks to science and independent thinking we can see reality for what it really is, and it is indeed pure and free of darkness, demons, fear and destruction.
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What happened to your marriage when you DA'd?
by toby888 incan anyone tell me how your marriage has fared after you da'd and your spouse was ( or is) still in?
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toby888
I see myself moving closer to DA, maybe tonight, after the meeting. I have a very simple letter made up, no"apostate" stuff, I don't want to give them any clues about what I learned to make me leave. My wife mentioned one time she could handle the shunning, but she is genuinly worried about "life without Jehovah" and I guess I may have damaged her faith in a creator in some way when we talked about "the truth" the other night. Anyway she is trying to pull me back into the faith and I can't go there. I can't handle the meetings anymore either. Her other family members "in the truth" live here with us also as well as her very old mom in bad health who might take my DA very bad and maybe kick the bucket. So for me this is not a clear-cut issue at all, the shunning could have some very deliterious effects on my wife's mom's health, but I can't go on being someone I am not. My older son (18) living with us knows the situation and can smell hypocrisy. What a mess. No easy way out for me or for anyone, but when I woke up this morning I felt good for the first time in a long time, thinking about handing the letter in and ending my personal torment from this religion. I feel by cutting myself off formally I can actively take the battle into my own hands and be strong and face what I have to and be the real person I am inside with my son and wife.I am beginning to think my son can trust me more if he knows I am standing up on principle not being a "false witness".