AuldSoul

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  Comments You Will Not Hear at the 10-30-05 WT Study (Walk/Jesus)

  by blondie in

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  go on walking as jesus christ walked

  go on walking just as that one [jesus] walked.

  how is jesus christ with his followers in this time...?.

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  AuldSoul

  Unless you beome as young children, eh GaryBuss ?
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  A reminder for Witnesses who deny this

  by gumby in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  here's a precious little gem for jehovahs witnesses who deny what their organisation really teaches.. when they are directly asked..." do you believe your the only ones who will be saved"?

  they try and wiggle out of it with some vague, obscure answer.

  below is what they really believe.. watchtower 1989 september 1 p. 19 remaining organized for survival into the millennium .

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  AuldSoul

  Do you realize just how many who post here that do the very things you describe, Bumby?

  Schizm, outside the org it doesn't matter. Inside the org it proves whether someone believes the org is Jehovah's organization or not. Anyone who fears what man can do to them (even labeling them Apostate) is a chickenshit, a coward. Now, there may be good reason for their cowardice, but it doesn't change the fact that the cowardice is there. In your case, you claim not to be afraid, but you are. How many people in your congregation know that you post here?

  The fact is, Schizm, the Governing Body applies Matthew 24:45 and Luke 12:42 to themselves in practice and applies those Scriptures to the "faithful and discreet slave" in word. You aren't anything more than a number on a publishers report to the Governing Body. They don't know you and they don't care about whether you are defending them or not. They don't care about the opinions of another of the anointed, if the jerk keeps pressing to hard they will simply disfellowship his/her ass.

  THEY are on top. The FDS isn't to be found in the organizational equation at all. They are relegated to outsiders who "suggest" things that may or may not be acted on at the discretion of...THE GOVERNING BODY. That doesn't sound like the group Jesus was talking about at Matthew 24:45-47 to me.

  The Faithful and Discreet Slave, as a class, is supposed to be OVER all the belongings, not under almost all of the belongings. How do you explain this fact?

  AuldSoul
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  I need help—source needed!

  by AuldSoul in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  carm.org has this quote cited: "thousands of the readers of pastor russell's writings believe that he filled the office of 'that faithful and wise servant,' and that his great work was giving to the household of faith meat in due season.

  his modesty and humility precluded him from openly claiming this title, but he admitted as much in private conversation.

  " it is sourced as "watchtower 12/1/1916, page.

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  AuldSoul

  Thanks, Legolas and GaryBuss! That was just what I needed.

  For good or ill, you have helped me finish my work on the article Faithful and Discreet Slave.

  AuldSoul
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  How long would it take? (Physics question, sort of. Maybe)

  by AlmostAtheist in

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  let's say i've got a length of solid material that is one light year long.

  it's just hanging there in space, between galaxies, not affected by gravity enough at any point along its length to be twisted, bent, whatever.

  let's also say that it is resistent to flexing.. i'm at one end of this impossibly-existing rod, and you are at the other.

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  AuldSoul

  (oops! double-post )
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  How long would it take? (Physics question, sort of. Maybe)

  by AlmostAtheist in

  1. jw
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  let's say i've got a length of solid material that is one light year long.

  it's just hanging there in space, between galaxies, not affected by gravity enough at any point along its length to be twisted, bent, whatever.

  let's also say that it is resistent to flexing.. i'm at one end of this impossibly-existing rod, and you are at the other.

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  AuldSoul

  Anybody got a 9-trillion kilometer 4x4 in their garage?

  Damnit! I was saving it for my first Christmas Yule log, but it is for a worthy cause...
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  I need help—source needed!

  by AuldSoul in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  carm.org has this quote cited: "thousands of the readers of pastor russell's writings believe that he filled the office of 'that faithful and wise servant,' and that his great work was giving to the household of faith meat in due season.

  his modesty and humility precluded him from openly claiming this title, but he admitted as much in private conversation.

  " it is sourced as "watchtower 12/1/1916, page.

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  AuldSoul

  carm.org has this quote cited: "Thousands of the readers of Pastor Russell's writings believe that he filled the office of 'that faithful and wise servant,' and that his great work was giving to the household of faith meat in due season. His modesty and humility precluded him from openly claiming this title, but he admitted as much in private conversation." It is sourced as "Watchtower 12/1/1916, page. 357"

  When you click on that link, you are taken to a page that shows this (in context with more of the article): Thousands of the readers of Pastor Russell's writings believe that he filled the office of "that faithful and wise servant," and that his great work was giving to the Household of Faith meat in due season. His modesty and humility precluded him from openly claiming this title, but he admitted as much in private conversation. For a more detailed account of his work, reference is made to THE WATCH TOWER of June 1st, 1916." But this is sourced as "Watchtower 12/1/1919, page 357"—which is right, 1916 or 1919?

  I need to know so I can properly source a statement. Thanks in advance!

  AuldSoul
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  Comments You Will Not Hear at the 10-30-05 WT Study (Walk/Jesus)

  by blondie in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  go on walking as jesus christ walked

  go on walking just as that one [jesus] walked.

  how is jesus christ with his followers in this time...?.

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  AuldSoul

  Thanks again, Blondie! As always, "Christian" equals "Jehovah's Witnesses."

  I love how at the end they switch from following HIM to following the form of leadership that he "put in place" in 1919. Which is, subjecting all things on earth to the Faithful and Discreet Slave. Who, as a class, have no authority over anyone or anything. They aren't even on the organizational chart of heirarchy. They are a mythical, ethereal, "something" that somehow magically are over all Jesus' belongings even though they are subject to the Governing Body (which they say is part of Jesus' belongings).

  I don't know about you, Blondie, but I am more than willing to admit that the FDS is over all Christ's belongings if the Governing Body admits they don't belong to Christ.

  AuldSoul
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  A reminder for Witnesses who deny this

  by gumby in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  here's a precious little gem for jehovahs witnesses who deny what their organisation really teaches.. when they are directly asked..." do you believe your the only ones who will be saved"?

  they try and wiggle out of it with some vague, obscure answer.

  below is what they really believe.. watchtower 1989 september 1 p. 19 remaining organized for survival into the millennium .

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  AuldSoul

  Schizm, perhaps it escaped your keen powers of perception but your "response" to my last question was to send me on a hunt through the myriad posts you've made for one where you supposedly answered the question about the "third heaven." As soon as I saw that you disagree with the Jews as to what the term "third heaven" means, I knew it would be futile to search for your post as it could only express more of what you already said in slightly different terms.

  In the earlier discussion, I linked you to a Web site that is a Hebrew dictionary. It states that the term highest heaven refers to the third heaven.

  Highest Heaven
  
  (she-may ha-shah-MA-yeem) n. Highest Heaven. The third heaven.

  http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Glossary/Hebrew_Glossary_-_H/hebrew_glossary_-_h.html

  You failed to respond last time, I assumed you would choose the coward's path this time as well. (Revelation 19:8; Deuteronomy 18:20-22) I see that you attack what you find in my profile instead of answering my question. I understand. It's easy to attack a human based on unfounded human reasoning, isn't it? It's easy to defend a course of action with hypothetical senarios you create in your mind, isn't it? This isn't a discussion about me or my profile. This is a discussion about denial. You are right in the middle of it, but I doubt you realize the fact.

  It's a little tougher for you to explain why Hebrews believe the "highest heaven" is the third heaven, while you say it isn't. It's a little tougher for you to explain why Matthew 24:45-47 should mean that the FDS is appointed over everything on earth when OBVIOUSLY the Governing Body holds that position.

  So, you take a coward's path. (Revelation 19:8) I understand, you follow an organization that takes the liars path. (John 8:44; 1 Timothy 1:8-11) That's why they need invented laws of men to restrain them. Maybe one day you will choose to stand up for the basis of your beliefs instead of just patronizingly or abusively reciting your (unfounded) beliefs at people, but I'm not holding my breath for that moment to arrive.

  Now that I have responded to both your most recent posts to me, why don't you step up to the plate and...think about reality versus the lie.

  AuldSoul
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  Wikipedia—Faithful and Discreet Slave

  by AuldSoul in

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  2. friends

  thoughts?

  comments?.

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/faithful_and_discreet_slave.

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  AuldSoul

  Thanks, startingover! I added the entire thing tonight. There wasn't an FDS article this morning. I still have references to add, but this will be part of the new JW project on Wikipedia.
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  A reminder for Witnesses who deny this

  by gumby in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  here's a precious little gem for jehovahs witnesses who deny what their organisation really teaches.. when they are directly asked..." do you believe your the only ones who will be saved"?

  they try and wiggle out of it with some vague, obscure answer.

  below is what they really believe.. watchtower 1989 september 1 p. 19 remaining organized for survival into the millennium .

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  AuldSoul

  Schizm: You, as well as most others here, need to wake up and smell the roses.
  I woke up, but not to the smell of roses. Tell me, Schizm, if Christ has set the Faithful and Discreet Slave over all his belongings why is it that all doctrinal points are decided by only a tiny portion of the Faithful and Discreet Slave? Why does the Governing Body answer to itself and to Jehovah, while the Faithful and Discreet Slave answers to the Governing Body?

  Since that is the way it works, in reality (where I live), exactly how is the Faithful and Discreet Slave OVER the Governing Body? They aren't even listed on the heirarchical org chart.

  Governing Body

  Zone Overseers (appointed by te Governing Body, no one asks the FDS)

  Branch Overseers (appointed by the Governing Body, no one asks the FDS)

  District

  Circuit

  Elder

  Ministerial Servant

  Granted, one of the FDS could serve as any of these as long as he wasn't a she. However, the FDS as a group has no position of authority among Jehovah's Witnesses AT ALL. How do you explain that, given the description at Matthew 24:45-47?

  AuldSoul