A reminder for Witnesses who deny this

by gumby 61 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  gumby

  Here's a precious little gem for Jehovahs Witnesses who deny what their organisation really teaches.

  When they are directly asked..." Do you believe your the only ones who will be saved"? They try and wiggle out of it with some vague, obscure answer. Below is what they really believe.

  Watchtower 1989 September 1 p. 19 Remaining Organized for Survival Into the Millennium

  " Only Jehovah's Witnesses, those of the anointed remnant and the "great crowd," as a united organization under the protection of the Supreme Organizer, have any Scriptural hope of surviving the impending end of this doomed system dominated by Satan the Devil".

  Any of you dubs out there want to refute this?

  Gumby
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  Frogleg

  Gumby,

  You jelly-filled little rascal, you are both right and wrong. How about that for ambivalence? A true witness won't refute what you've said. Will they try to "wiggle" out from under that? I wouldn't have, I would have put on my best Chevy Chase face, nodded two or three times, and said, "Yeah. Okay." The question is the "saving" part. The problem is that we all try to decide by who's criteria is the "saving" to be decided. Remember, according to Islam, you are already worm-food, but just too dumb (and evil) to realize it. What, precisely, are you asking?
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  Double Edge

  When they are directly asked..." Do you believe your the only ones who will be saved"? They try and wiggle out of it with some vague, obscure answer.

  That's been my experience. I've never been a dub, but when I asked my dubbie friend that question, their answer was "only Jehovah knows people's heart".... I was left with, "oookay... and that means......?" then they would "tap dance" around the question for the next several minutes. Go figure.... just say I'm worm food and be done with it.
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  stealyourface

  Does anyone know if the bound volume has been changed updated to newspeak?
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  Farkel

  Watchtower 1989 September 1 p. 19 Remaining Organized for Survival Into the Millennium

  " Only Jehovah's Witnesses, those of the anointed remnant and the "great crowd," as a united organization under the protection of the Supreme Organizer, have any Scriptural hope of surviving the impending end of this doomed system dominated by Satan the Devil".

  This is the era of Freddie. Note the missing qualifiers in this outrageous claim.

  1) It is not just about surviving because Jehovah's witnesses are great (or good people), it is a "scriptural" hope (not a fact, just some nebulous hope. Translation: a pipe dream.)

  2) This "system" (whatever the heck that means) is doomed. (No facts, not one shred of evidence is presented, nor is there any that can be presented.)

  3) This "system" (see #2 above) is dominated (not proven at all) by the Devil (also undefined and unproven.)

  In short, this is horseshit piled to the highest layers in the time when Freddie was a little God in WatchtowerLand. Well, he is dead and rotting in his grave now.

  Let him rot. He hurt many people with his crap.

  Farkel
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  bikerchic

  Here,here Farkel! You are in rare form tonight the only thing I would maybe add to your analogy is this:

  " Only Jehovah's Witnesses, those of the anointed remnant and the "great crowd," as a united organization under the protection of the Supreme Organizer, have any Scriptural hope of surviving the impending end of this doomed system dominated by Satan the Devil".

  4. Under the protection of the Supreme Organizer aka: the WTS or "Mother", who ever in the hell that is?

  Oh and you forgot to call Gumby, Gumbastard!
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  YALDAH

  All persons seeking eternal life shall find it if they are practicing what God commands(in spirit and in truth)That means, abstaining from forication, fits of anger, jeolousy, strife,(The ten commandments) etc.. We put on a new personality(Col 3:5-14),and are humble before God, and with fellow believers. We do as Jesus would have, being a teacher, publicly declaring the good news and demonstating our faith.Jas1:22-24.Romans 10:10 You too can share in eternal life, "There is going to be a resurrection for both the righteous and the unrighteous" Acts 24:15 "They will be judged according to thier deeds" performed after thier resurrection Rev 20:12, 13 We look forward to "the real life" as the apostle Paul put it. 1 Tim 6:19;Heb 6:10-12
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  gumby

  Here's another lie,

  The Road to Everlasting Life--Have You Found It? (brochure, 2002) part 7 p. 24 Who Practice the True Religion?

  " There is no other group of people that does God's will by preaching the Kingdom good news. Only Jehovah's Witnesses are making known God's Kingdom throughout the entire earth".

  I guess all the missionaries from christendoms religions only preach the devils message eh?

  Gumby
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  bikerchic

  I would have loved to be a fly on the wall of a JW's house tonight when this program aired:

  In God they trust

  NBC's Tom Brokaw goes inside the world of Christian Evangelicals

  http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9804232/

  A community of 70 millionBernadoni is one of about 70 million Evangelical Christians in America. Evangelical Christians believe the Bible is the word of God, that salvation comes through personal relationships with Jesus, and that Christians should spread the Gospel. While attendance at traditional churches has been declining for decades, the evangelical movement is growing, and it is changing the way America worships.

  The New Life Church is one of the phenomenally popular and successful mega-churches in America, with a membership of 11,000. They can seat 8,000 here in what they call the “living room.” They don’t have pews or stained glass, but this is the new wave in the evangelical movement.

  Ha,ha puts any Kingdum Hall or Assembly Hall I've ever seen to shame! Plus now I've heard they are selling off KH's and combining congergations due to such low attendance.

  Oh well we all know "narrow is the road leading to everlasting life"........
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  Schizm

  Here's another lie,

  The Road to Everlasting Life--Have You Found It? (brochure, 2002) part 7 p. 24 Who Practice the True Religion?

  " There is no other group of people that does God's will by preaching the Kingdom good news. Only Jehovah's Witnesses are making known God's Kingdom throughout the entire earth".

  I guess all the missionaries from christendoms religions only preach the devils message eh?

  Gumby

  I think that is to be understood in the light of Christendom's belief/message that all the "saved" are destined for heaven (no restoration of an earthly paradise). "If you were to die tonight are you sure you'll go to heaven?" I've heard Christendom's clergy say that many times. Some Churches teach that the "kingdom" is in a person's heart. In contrast, the WTS preaches about a Kingdom (a heavenly government) that will rule the earth for 1000 years under the headship of Christ. The Kingdom that the WTS preaches about is one that condemns and will put an end to man's system of self-rule--symbolized by a 7-headed wild beast that derived its power and authority from God's adversary the Devil. In contrast, Christendom promotes man's system by getting involved in the politics and wars of the nations.

  So in the truest sense the WTS is the only religion making known God's Kingdom. The only flaw I find with the WTS's version of it is with regards to them teaching that it has already been established, in 1914.

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