Posts by forsharry

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If you could ask

by carla in

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if you could ask one question of brooklyn, what would it be?

(pretend they are on the receiving end of a jc)

the "end of the internet"

by colorado5591 in

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friends

sometimes i feel like i have reached the "end of the internet".

it seems like i always go to the same sites looking for something amusing only to be sorely dissapointed.. .

gimme something new!

forsharry

http://postsecret.blogspot.com/ - This is a VERY good site.

http://www.etiquettehell.com

I think these are my 2 cents for right now...i have better links at home...searching the net at work is a no funner. ;)

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I may have sealed my fate.....

by atypical in

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well, i have been trying to fade peacefully for months, for the sake of my wife and family.

to do this, i have had to hold my tongue about most of what i know, and i have done a good job of it until now.

the other day, i was hanging out with my buddy who misses most meetings, but still believes it's the truth.

I feel your pain there. Same thing happened to me. Opened up to a good friend who agreed with me completely and 'understood' my pain and confusion and doubts...and then turned around and went to the PO with all that I said.

Just try to let that dread go. If it's gonna go down in a bad way it will. You've said only what you believe, your conscience is clean, your soul can rest easy at night for that...at least for that. However, this is out of your hands for the time being. Worry about what you can fix...let go what you can't. I read that your family's involved...and I'm so sorry to hear that...

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FEELING VERY DEPRESSED, EMPTY. LIFE IS CONFUSING...

by stillAwitness in

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meetings are dragging me down.

it sucks because i still live at home and have no choice but it has gotten to the point where i have left early at times just because i cannot stand to hear all the b.s from the platform.

how do i just keep doing what i have to do till i know i can leave?

forsharry

Then don't worry about death. JWs are so fixed with it! Destruction, salvation, death death death. It's not the point of life. The point of life is yes, go, get knowledge, satisfy your hunger for learning, if its your cup of tea, go find a woman to be with, to satisfy your hunger for intimacy, love, association, go have children, if it satisfies the want for 'immortality.' But all of this comes down to be happy. I'm not speaking of hedonism here...but since no one has come back from the veil to tell us just what happens after we take our last breath then we have to assume that this is all that there is. Should this make us sad? I guess it does for some of us...but it just helps me to appreciate all that I have around me. If I only have one shot then I want to live my life to the fullest, growing and learning and helping and living. Living for jeezy-chreezy's sake, not waiting for an ACT OF GOD that may or may not ever come...and in turn losing my soul bit by bit, because I'm not feeding it what it needs.

/end rant

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FEELING VERY DEPRESSED, EMPTY. LIFE IS CONFUSING...

by stillAwitness in

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friends

meetings are dragging me down.

it sucks because i still live at home and have no choice but it has gotten to the point where i have left early at times just because i cannot stand to hear all the b.s from the platform.

how do i just keep doing what i have to do till i know i can leave?

forsharry

I'm not sure if this will help, but have you looked inside yourself for answers? I've found that religion always teaches us to reach out to the unseen, and although that might bring comfort in some cases to lay our problems at someone else's door, we neglect that we ourselves are made of sterner stuff than most religions want us to believe. And I mean religion in general...I'm not dissing JWs.

Depression in a lot of cases is misplaced anger. Since you can't lash out at whatever it is that's enraging you, it becomes twisted and refocused as sadness within you. It's an impotent emotion.

This is not an easy time for you...I know from experience. ::HUGS:: But find out from you just what makes you happy and start reclaiming that happiness. I'm so sorry to hear that you're seeing this vast gulf before you and don't know what fills it. Just try to remember that it is not empty...it is filled with whatever you want to be there. Maybe you could tell your family that you need some time off? I don't know what your circumstances are, but I worry for you...is there anyone you can go talk to? I hate to always say therapy therapy therapy...it's not always the answer, but it can be a good compass direction, a touchstone if you will to get some perspective on just what's going on around you.

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You may go to college, you may go to school, if you don't know Jehovah...

by truthseeker in

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you're an educated fool.. .

so said a brother from the patterson educational centre.. .

and so the point of this post is, can we give a rhyming rebuttal?.

forsharry

As the last days supposedly move along to the end

unwisely in service my time I did spend

A faithful little dub-bot serving monotonously was me

until I opened my eyes, did I see

Wake-up and smell the coffee,

only then can you truly be free,

as you learn ALL the truth

and give the WT the finger wee-hee!

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You may go to college, you may go to school, if you don't know Jehovah...

by truthseeker in

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friends

you're an educated fool.. .

so said a brother from the patterson educational centre.. .

and so the point of this post is, can we give a rhyming rebuttal?.

forsharry

"Sicks munts ego Ah cudn't evin spel Epahstate, end den Ah went two Calege end goht en Edumacashion end nahw Ah are one."

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How Has Your Life Gotten Better?

by minimus in

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since leaving the witnesses, has your life dramatically improved?

did it happen suddenly or is it a process?

forsharry

A VERY LONG PROCESS. :)

The long part for me was that I was raised as a JW, so I had to essentially learn social behaviors that most 'normies' have mastered by 19...So I still deal a little bit with feeling socially inadequate, but I'm doing immensely better than when I left the Org. I've had to come to grips that I have been dealing with depression and anxiety inadequately since I was a teenager (trust in god, he'll provide.) So that's getting taken care of. A slow road but I've seen so much improvement I almost don't know that woman that I used to be. Everyone has the tale of lonliness in the religion. Same here...but now I'm reaching a point of contentment. I don't have a lot of friends, but the ones I do have are tried and true, and it's nice to not be alone. So ultimately, my life is getting there. It is a work in progress, but I do know that if I had remained in the religion, if all of the 'cataclysmic' events surrounding my family and the Org never were to take place I believe I would have committed suicide by now.

That in itself is a victory...or perhaps a pestilence perhaps how you look at it. I'm still here to inflict my own particular brand of annoyance onto the peoples of the Earth. Woe, and it is good.

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So just WHO made this universe?

by onacruse in

in the christian theology, "god" is the creator.

but many scriptures intimate that jesus was, at the very least, the "maker.

" there are 2 distinctly different greek words used in the bible to describe the activities of these two beings; a distinction that the wts (along with many other non-trinitological belief systems) has made.. i'd rather not argue about the meaning of these two words, as they are very clear, and hardly worth (imho) wasting the bandwidth on yet further etymological dissertations.. i recently suggested that i could see jesus as tinkering with dna, and god giving him helpful suggestions along the way.

forsharry

I'm gonna go with the Official Forsharry Chaos Theory here. I have no proofs for my theory...so I guess it's less of a theory and more of an opinion. Man. I really have to get back to the classroom.

I think that from denial that belief is born. People want to deny that this is all that there is, that there has to be more, a greater purpose than just living for a couple of decades, procreating and then dying. And in that state of denial people will wish to believe anything. So they believe that there's something greater than them, and somehow, someway that after they die they'll go to a kingdom of fine jewels and heavenly music and everything will be perfect and wonderful, because real life in general is struggle and extremes from pain to joy.

So in the end, here we are, carbon based life-forms stuck on a ball of molten iron mixed with other solid stuffs, hurtling through the galaxy at hundreds of thousands of miles an hour, with no final destination in mind really. I know that I might hear that look at the astronomical odds it would take for all of this to happen by chance? There simply HAS TO BE something greater out there. Oh, really? Considering that there are billions of galaxies out there, with trillions of stars, with a google of planets spiraling around them, made of all kinds of star-stuff and suddenly our 'astronomical' odds aren't so unbelievable after all.

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Thankyou, my friends

by dedpoet in

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friends

as some of you know, my young daughter was taken into hospital on monday night with severe breathing difficulties.

i have just got back from seeing her, and am happy to say that it was nothing serious, just a chest infection, and she is fine.

my friend linda posted about this, and many of you replied.

forsharry

I'm so glad to hear that everything's alright.