no this isn't really an "outing " letter, but it might make her think.
she already knows i'm not going to meetings, and we've had discussions about the possible extent of the flood , so she knows i'm on the edge .
which is probably why she picks out articles in the watchtower and sends them to me.
I think the letter is excellent, humble and asking her opinion rather than acting like you already know the answer.
We all know how difficult it is to reach those really entrenched in the faith, but sometimes a seed can be sown which will grow at a later date.
(might have picked that one up at the meeting, guess some stuff does filter through )
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my parents are 80 yrs old and today they stopped by with a wrapped birthday present for me!
i don't know what to say..... swalker
Please open it and tell us it's not a years supply of Watchtowers!!!
Happy Birthday!!
Poppy xxx
the lastest study article says in a nut shell that we should tell our new workmates/employer that we are a jw..for you folks who do not attend anymore or you've got out of the "theocratic routine" do you still make it know you are a jw?
I dont tell people I AM a JW as I dont feel I am, but I am not afraid to tell them I used to be. I feel it goes part way to explaining some of my behaviours and reactions, also it was a massive part of my life, bit like not telling someone you've been married when you were for 30 years.. how can you miss something like that out!
I also feel it's a good opportunity to give them some home truths about the 'truth'!
so my mother 'invited' me to the special talk today.. made me smile that at least she knows i would not be going otherwise (i'm not going anyway!).
she handed me the watchtower with the invitation printed on it and said i could keep it.
i just said thank you, put the wt down on her table and left it there.
So my mother 'invited' me to the special talk today.
Made me smile that at least she knows I would not be going otherwise (I'm not going anyway!)
She handed me the watchtower with the invitation printed on it and said I could keep it.
I just said thank you, put the WT down on her table and left it there.
I really didn't want to touch that watchtower!! So funny, I felt about it like I would have done about apostate literature a while ago!
So it's on the 30th April at 10.. shame I cant make it, I have a Sunday morning lay in planned..
Poppy x
this is my explanation as to why i met with the elders today.
when i agreed to meet with the elders last week i had made up my mind to just go in and be honest with them.
i was going to tell the elders that i no longer believed this to be the truth, and then i was just going to walk away.
Hugs to you Lola, I'm proud of you, think you did completely the right thing and exactly what I would have done and will do in your position.
You dont owe anything to the religion, you are not making a stand by DA.. they'll just think you have done something wrong and are too gutless to face the committee..
By fading you can still have association with all those people and how do you know that you may do what the apostle paul said!!
(1 Corinthians 9:22) To the weak I became weak, that I might gain the weak. I have become all things to people of all sorts, that I might by all means save some. . .
Poppy xxxx
Each other. Gossip is their pastime
Never truer words spoken, I've just come back from a family meal, and they were discussing a sister that has just been re-instated. My gut feeling is that she has done it because she wants to be able to see her family again. But since the announcement she has not been to a single meeting
They were bitching about that.. she should be dealt with etc etc. Such lack of love. Then my mother started talking about so and so was depressed, so and so had left their husband and 'rumour' had it she was working away a lot...
I think they make up for their feelings of constant inadequacy by pulling others down.
i have been reading all of the feed back for saddler and the others.
i too have been in a relationship with a jw for a little over a year.
i love her very much but all the abuse i have taken over the pass year from her elders, uncles, grandfather...etc has really taken it's toll on me.
She wants the Kingdom Hall wedding because any other venue for the wedding will be forbidden to other JWs to attend, even members of her own family. Family members who do attend will be punished in one form or another
It sounds like you have experience of this happening, which I obviously dont. BUT, I have never heard of JWs being punished for attending a wedding between a witness and non-witness. I've been to weddings in Catholic Churches for members of my husbands family and none of us were spoken to, possibly gossiped about, but that I can take!
She probably wants a kindgom hall wedding because that's what she's always dreamed of, being married to a 'brother' in sight of Jehovah. She doesn't want to scuttle away to a registry office and do it on the quiet and who can blame her.
I have known many couples where one is a witness and one isn't that work out ok, not fabulously, like any marraige between people that have very different beliefs or experiences. But I dont think it's quite the doom and gloom that so many prophesy!
In saying that.. if she wants you to get baptised first before you get married, I would think VERY Carefully, as once baptised you can of course be dfed and you might find yourself without the girl and any possible children..
Poppy
as many of you know i will be meeting with the elders from my hall today.
i had decided to come clean and just tell them that i don't believe in this anymore.
however tonight i talked to one of my friends who is still a witness and i realized that there are a lot of people who would be very hurt if i got dfed, so i have made the choice to go into that meeting today and lie my ass off.
On the what to wear thing...
You're a depressed person, dont pretty yourself up too much, the worse you look, the worse you'll feel and the acting will come naturally!!
Loooooooooonnnng skirt of course, baggy top. very flat shoes, no makeup, see, you're depressed already aren't you! In the role!
The elders cannot handle women and 'emotions'. Just tell them you're so confused, you cry all the time, you might need to see the doctor, you just cant think about the meetings or bear to think about Armageddon (this might offset your comments about jehovah not caring)
fingers crossed for you.
Poppy xx
as many of you know i will be meeting with the elders from my hall today.
i had decided to come clean and just tell them that i don't believe in this anymore.
however tonight i talked to one of my friends who is still a witness and i realized that there are a lot of people who would be very hurt if i got dfed, so i have made the choice to go into that meeting today and lie my ass off.
Oooh, thinking about you, and in your position I would do exactly the same thing. There is no moral high ground in telling the truth, it merely plays into their hands.
Tell them you are confused.. depressed, but of course you think the organisation has the truth!! How could you not!! Please be very careful to stay off any topics you might want to raise, 607, UN, child abuse... keep those lips zipped!
if you can do this sucessfully you can have your cake and eat it. Not be a witness but hang on to your friends and family.
Whichever way it goes, we're here for you with that worldly thing... true unconditional friendship!!
Poppy xxxx
hello from mavie.
currently happily married for a number of years to a great jw wife, i currently serve as an ms in our local kh.
my wife and i have been told we are pillars in the congregation.
Even after I mentioned she could be disfellowshipped if it was ever seen!
Actually this isn't true. If you research the WT library, which I did BEFORE I got my first tattoo, it is a conscience matter. If she was a brother she might not have privileges, but as a sister she doesn't have any anyway! You cannot be disfellowshipped for having a tattoo, or body piercing.
Poppy
Below is the reference to the article I was thinking of, it clearly dissaproves, but just asks you to think about your decision.
g03 Should I Get a Tattoo. The message? Think before you ink. Don’t make a decision that you may regret later
