I am a Wiccan but I don't believe in spells and the nonsense of the religion. There is no doctrine in Wicca, there is only living by the Rede that matters. I know many of my friends who commune with the dead, or claim to, but the practices of a witch are as varied as the people claim to be Wiccan. That's one of the things I like about it. I am not forced to believe in anything at all. "If it harms none, then do what you will."
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Witchcraft - Would you use it?
by Sirona inwould you ever use witchcraft?.
do you think witchcraft is dangerous?.
do you think witchcraft is just a set of delusions based on ancient superstition?.
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Bible infallible?
by Shawn10538 ini am wondering how many of the folks on this site believe that the bible is the infallible word of god.
post your replies if you are.
can i get an amen?
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I am wondering how many of the folks on this site believe that the Bible is the infallible word of God. Post your replies if you are. Can I get an amen?
I have two or three argumnts that I'd like to have commented on for you Bible thumpers out there.
If the Bible is infallible and presents history that is 100% acurate, that means that Job and his companions were speaking to each other in verse not prose. If they were not speaking in verse (which is highly umlikely, then what we have in the book of Job is a really long epic poem - a didactic fictional story - or a series of poems. This is proof that the Bible is not infallible to me. How can it be if it paraphrases what people are saying or puts a person's words in a poem as a work of fictional art.
Also, if the Bible is infallible, then all paraphrases or wrong translations are not true. Only the one REAL translation, in Greek or whatever language can be infallible, since the process of translating is an imperfect one.
I'm assuming that infallible means perfect, unable to make a mistake - can't be wrong on any point no matter how significant.
I have a feeling that most people who believe in the Bible believe that it is inspired but imperfect. This would be a more reasonable way to believe in the Bible.
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Crises of Conscience
by ex-nj-jw ini just finished the book by ray franz, coc, and for some reason i'm madder than ever at this organization!!!
i've been out for over 20 years and now i'm even more pissed off!!!!
why am i so angry at things i already knew although i'm sure i've just repressed them over the years and got on with my life, anyone else have this anger problem after reading this book, or is it just me??.
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Who wrote the Bible by Friedman is high on my list of books to read after Crisis of conscience. You'll find that the whole business is a wash.
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Attorney EXJW SUES K-HALL for HER OWN RAPE
by DannyHaszard insuit claims years of abuse by father vote and add comment.
victorville daily press, ca - 8 minutes ago.
there was no corroborative witness to the sexual abuse, so the crimes against children unit could not recommend to the district attorneys office to press .... suit claims years of abuse by fatherryan orr2007-04-28 00:02:00apple valley a former apple valley resident has filed a lawsuit alleging sexual abuse against the apple valley cheyenne kingdom hall of jehovahs witnesses, which is named in the complaint as roe, and her biological father, a church minister.
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The Tower of Wood has a name: Jenga (It's a game.)
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The "Truth" Hurts
by Cold Creek Swimmer init is finally out there.
my dad has finally faced it.
he screamed that i am "apostate".
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I'm sorry to hear about your troubles. They are very similar to mine. Unfortunately for those who leave a cult, anger is a byproduct of leaving. Read up on Steven Hassan's Combatting Cult Mind Control, and PLEASE, get a therapist and keep them for the rest of your life. There is nothing quite like a good therapist to help you channel your anger. I suggest re-reading your post in about 6 months to review the things you did and said that were counter productive. But right off the top, Dude, you gotta keep your cool. If you don't think you can talk about something without getting angry, then best not talk about it, unless it's with a therapist or a close non-witness friend. You have lost considerable ground with your parents due to your inability to stay calm and now their defenses are up. That's not what you want if you want them to grow intellectually and develop free thinking. You must now be the grown up in this situation. I would seek some type of resolution with them if I were you. Go back in a few months and admit you were wrong, and promise alegiance from that day forward. Then, ever so slowly, start slipping in subliminal messages. Connect with your parents in Non-witness related waysm(ie. go hunting with dad, take mom out to a play. You cannot help them if they think you are an apostate.
Also, usually those who can't control their anger in a situation like this are the least secure about their beliefs. Do not let that be so in your case. You must be able to argue, though ever so slightly, for your side of the issue. You have to be solid and have all your ducks in a row. Then ever so gently pursue those arguments. But if they get triggered and become defensive, STOP! You've gone too far, it's time to retreat so that you can continue another day. -
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Will Knocking help or hurt the witnesses?
by seek2find ini think it will hurt in the long run.
anyone else have an opinion?
sorry if this has already been discussed, i may have missed it.
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I only wish it were true that no new converts are being made. There are several in the area I live in, especially in the Spanish field. Where there is ignorance, groups like JWs will always find fertile minds. Unfortunately I even know of some college graduate converts. Go figure.
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Why can't I just get over it and move on?
by Crumpet inmonths have passed now since mr c and i officially separated.
so why can't i get over it?
why am i still jealous?
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Get back out there and try and love again. In the words of Jonathan Richman, "When you love again, miracles will start to happen." And if you think you can't love then have a fling in the meantime.
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The very first post should have stated the obvious: WIPING ONE"S ASS.
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Lost
by youcanhaveago inhaven't been on here for months and months .. .
completely lost and screwed up.. please don't be offended but some stuff on here does my head in .... .
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For the first time in your life you don't have someone telling you what to do, what to think etc. That can be scary. But think... it can be really exciting too. Now you are in the driver's seat. You can be what you want to be, do what you want to do, even believe what you want to believe. It's all on you now. That's a lot of responsibility, but you will get the hang of it and you will learn to love it. Life is yours to create. So get busy creating.
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Guilt over how I acted when I was disfellowshipped-moment of weakness
by Shawn10538 ini am hoping someone here can offer some wisdom on how i can deal with my guilt.
when i was disfellowshipped a few years ago i acted like a maniac afterwards.
i did and said things to my then girlfriend and other witnesses that i truly regret.
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Many, many thanks to all of you who posted a reply. I've been busy, so I haven't read them all until today. But I want you all to know that this is a community of people I love and respect. I really felt the love from all of you, and some of you who even called and emailed because you were worried about the depression I'm going through. I've had friends coming over and blessing my new apartment with ceremony and frankinsense and myrr, another friend who took me out to Palos Verdes and did LSD with me (it was really a sweet gesture in his own way, he was sure it would bring me out of my funk - and it did!) and several other friends who have called, even my own brother and father who are Witnesses were so worried about me that they called. So, I feel really cared for right now.
I just want to make one thing very clear: getting reinstated does not in any way mean that I actually believe in Jehovah. I do not believe in God of any kind or name. I do not believe Jesus was a historical person. I believe he is the myth of Prometheus and other similar Krishna myths that preceded the so called Jesus of Nazereth by thousands of years. That is why there is no legitimate secular evidence of Jesus existence. It's because he never existed. That's my beliefs. Getting reinstated is just that: getting reinstated. I do not believe in the JW religion nor will I ever believe in the JW religion. It is false in its very basic foundational premises. I do not believe that the bible is anything but a collection of popular myths and legends compiled by Levitical priests. Harry Potter is a holier book than the Bible as far as I'm concerned. So, the idea of praying to Jehovah is "right out" to quote Monty Python.
Still, I feel that this process, though hard, will get me access to my family that I don't have now. And as I get older hopefully they will be there for me. Should I start a family, my children will have cousins. I don't plan on raising kids in the borg though of course.
I welcome any more advice you may have on the matter.