hi cappuccino............ your post says it all,........... and the responses do too....... some will never see what the top leadership is like........... others see it everywhere they look.
crawdad2
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Bethelite speakers get Free rooms w/ hot tub
by Cappuccino OC ini was just given the new book from the convention by a neighbor of mine and i was remembering that when i was in high school 85-89, we met the bethelite brother who was giving the special talk at our district assembly.
most of the families from my congregation commuted, 20 miles, to the assembly in fresno, ca.
a local elder stayed with his family in the hotel across the selland arena, convention.
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Elders and Culpability Revisited
by dungbeetle inelders and culpability revisited.
since the issue keeps coming up no matter what (watchtower ingrained in all jws the position elders had and how no one should question the elders.
on the other hand, we should all turn in errant publishers).. i would like to say first that i have said some harsh words on the subject, to amazing and to marvin shilmer and to jst2laws and hillary_step (i read the book "into thin air" and i know what that means now!!).
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crawdad2
hi dungbeetle,
the gov body say's that the molestation problem may be worse because some elders don't follow the instructions of the gov body closely enough,............... that's not true!............. the problem is due to elders closely following the instructions of the gov body.............. the gov body knows exactly what they are doing, and they are guilty............... any gov body members who don't agree could have stepped down, like ray franz............ i guess they don't mind sharing in her sins........ rev 18: 4, 5, 6.
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LETTER READ TONIGHT
by biblexaminer inwell, the wts has directed all elders in canada to read a letter concerning the child abuse issue.
it is the same whitewash as read in the us a while back when dateline aired.
it seems that on the 'eve of destruction' (ie bbc and panorama) the wts has decided to read a letter that was obviously penned weeks ago.
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crawdad2
hi hillary........... i'm glad i'm not pissing you off then................ so, heidi's lawyer is not going to accept any settlements out of court, right? ............ you are not going to make any deals with the gov body, right?
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LETTER READ TONIGHT
by biblexaminer inwell, the wts has directed all elders in canada to read a letter concerning the child abuse issue.
it is the same whitewash as read in the us a while back when dateline aired.
it seems that on the 'eve of destruction' (ie bbc and panorama) the wts has decided to read a letter that was obviously penned weeks ago.
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crawdad2
oh sorry, hillary,....... i thought you would get it.
by the gov body already making written policy changes, wanted by you, and publicising it,..... the gov body will soon discredit your accusations to the media by saying ............ "we have already made the changes they wanted,... now they are still persecuting us"........... but nothing will have changed, as far as children being molested goes, because the brothers and sister are convinced with one hundred reasons not to tell anyone, except the elders.........(they think it brings reproach on jehovah)
yes, you are pruning,.......... the gov body is kicking out anyone who dares speak against them right now........ all the good hearted elders who come forward and take a stand, quickly get disfellowshipped........... leaving the most wicked elders to tend to the child abuse issue........... who do the children then have to protect them?
i think you should take them to court, instead of trying to make deals about policy changes with the gov body............ they can't honor them, they are up to their necks in it themselves,......... they can't turn over pedophiles.......... if they do, it will eventually get them incriminated themselves, cause they conspired to harbor them, and silence the victims, to appear like they don't have a pedophile problem...... and there are witnesses in silent lambs who will testify in court............... i sure hope you don't agree to settle out of court, with heidi meyer.........
oh, about the one pedophile you have gotten arrested........so far,........... yes i'm glad you mentioned that........... how come it's only one?................. and you are correct........... i have none...... i am nothing but the guy talking to you, pissing you off.
Edited by - crawdad2 on 11 July 2002 0:6:34
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LETTER READ TONIGHT
by biblexaminer inwell, the wts has directed all elders in canada to read a letter concerning the child abuse issue.
it is the same whitewash as read in the us a while back when dateline aired.
it seems that on the 'eve of destruction' (ie bbc and panorama) the wts has decided to read a letter that was obviously penned weeks ago.
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crawdad2
hi hillary,
when will you wake up?.......................... the gov body hasn't lost a battle by making a "stated" policy change......... they have kicked your butt.
they have no intentions of turning in their pedophile elders, ministerial servants, co's and do's........ they themselves are involved in it up to their necks by conspiring with them.
hillary, you are just pruning their tree, making it stronger, so it can bear even more wicked fruit.
please stop this nonsense, and consentrate on taking them to court for conspiracy to harbor pedophiles and silence victims. they are guilty of it, and silent lambs has tons of witnesses to prove it.
please don't make deals with expert cult leaders, with over a hundred years of experience.
the last thing they want to do is to go to court and lose...... they are going to try to make deals with you......... please, for the sake of the children, wise up............ let the victims sue.......... and see if god wipes out the whole leadership....... matt 18:6 ... rev 18:20
Edited by - crawdad2 on 10 July 2002 17:7:12
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The elder at my door today........omg
by LyinEyes inok, bear with me, i am a little shook up.
most everyone knows we just left town one day to work, and never went back to the kingdom hall.
that was over a year ago.
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crawdad2
hi lyin,
where was he for one whole year?...... if he is so concerned?.....he may be a nice guy, but he is loyal to the plan of the gov body.............. the gov body knows they are being attacked by so called apostates, and they are rounding them up........ they are being forced to make written policy changes about molesters and they don't like it.........
the effect it is going to have is that they are going to disfellowship alot of sincere persons who question them,... or persons they know who have left, but still might have some influence on the congregation.......... the written policy changes on molesters are producing this, even though hillary thinks the written changes will cause children to be protected.......... they are cleaning up the organization......
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LETTER READ TONIGHT
by biblexaminer inwell, the wts has directed all elders in canada to read a letter concerning the child abuse issue.
it is the same whitewash as read in the us a while back when dateline aired.
it seems that on the 'eve of destruction' (ie bbc and panorama) the wts has decided to read a letter that was obviously penned weeks ago.
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crawdad2
hi hillary,...............so ,............. the policy has been in effect for 2 weeks now?
how many pedophiles have been turned over during that time, since the plolicy change?.......... any at all?.........tell me about the grand effect it's having, and all the pedohpiles that are going to jail!
or............ is this a five year plan?
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Search and Seizure of WTS Pedo-FILES
by YoursChelbie inbarbara anderson gave her first hand account that there are many names and details of pedophiles' criminal activities inside wts headquarters.
many victims have come forward to say that the very pedophiles who victimized them are out on the streets.
so, what more is needed for the authorities to get a hold of those criminals that the wts is harboring?
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crawdad2
hi raven,
the world doesn't have to turn against jws,................. they have piled up enough of their own victims to sue them all day long, for big money, for a long time............ and after heidi meyer and the un-named person win in court, it's going to be open-season on the watchtower society, for all lawyers...
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It was only a matter of time...
by MrSlate inlook what i found... http://www.watchtower.org/library/g/1993/10/8a/article_01.htm how hypocritical.
you know.. like my mother taught me, if you are going to be a burgler, be the best there is.
if you are going to be anything, be the best there is, so if the wtc is going to be crooked, then be as crooked as you can be.
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hi weebee,......... i loved your post!........... please pray for heidi meyer and the other un-named victim, to have strength, while they go into court to help other victims,.... pray that the judge and jury see right through the corrupt gov body, and their lawyers, who have conspired to harbor pedophiles and silence victims, so that their organization appears to be clean.
Edited by - crawdad2 on 10 July 2002 0:27:35
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JW's will become more IMMORAL after Exposer of...
by D wiltshire in.
jw's will become more immoral after exposer of...gb on pedophile issue by dateline and bbc's panarama.. the reason being that many will reason if the gb can get themselves in trouble heck!
i might as well get mine too since jehovah is so forgiving as to let them stay in office.. what do you think?.
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crawdad2
hi minimus,......... no, the gov body and their lawyers are responsible for conspiring with their elders to cover it up.