me just learning the truth about the truth has just made it hard to even get through a two hour meeting at the the kingdom hall.
i get so sleepy during them and i almost cannot contain it!
the last time i went to a convention, i was still an avid believer but as you can see, that has changed.
If you are single..... You sit down at an assembly near people from your congregation. Then, you go to the bathroom about a half-hour into the first program. When you return to your seat, you pick up your stuff and say, "Pardon, I'm moving seats. I bumped into a very old friend from another congregation that asked me to sit with them." Then, you leave!
I don't know how you do it if you are married or a kid. Practice meditation?
so last night i had a family meeting and told my kids that i was quitting as a jw and then gave my wife my da letter to give to the one elder i like at the hall tonight.
so this morning i see a text from the co elder the one that met with me and is gunning to get me out and had already tried to get me to a jc meeting this week.
so the text reads "your wife has informed me of your letter and its sad to hear, would like to meet one last time not as a jc, to be sure this is what you want.".
I haven't read all of your posts to know your background. Is your wife also leaving/wants to leave? Or, is this between you and the Borg? If it's between you and the Borg, I wouldn't use the wife as a messenger. I think that would be very hard on a believing/hoping spouse to do. She loves you, and her doing this could be very hard on her emotionally. You have to take into account her feelings all the way through this. The rest of your family too. You are asking them to lose their friendships, which a short time ago you probably defended as being the best.
My advice to you, is to slowly point out the illogical to your family, assure them of your love to them, and have as many good family outings and picnics. If you alienate them (say, wifey thinks you are less of a man to have a woman do his bidding, left the JWs, left Jehovah), you are setting yourself up for a divorce. If she divorces you, then who is going to get the kids? What if she remarries? What if it's a quickie JW marraige? What if he's a wife-beater who is going to expose your children to abuse, or worse, a pedophile brother who wants to be near your teenaged daughter, but WOWS your wife with a 2 week fake show that he is absolutely great JW husband material? You have too much to lose, to not carefully plan every battle and every battlefield.
Skeeter
today, little man went off to school wearing green.
it is "grinch day" for the 1st graders.
they are watching the grinch movie, eating grinch food, and having alot of fun this last week before christmas vacation.
Today, little man went off to school wearing green. It is "Grinch Day" for the 1st graders. They are watching The Grinch movie, eating grinch food, and having alot of fun this last week before Christmas Vacation. We read the Dr. Suess book, "How the Grinch Stole Christmas." Every JW & ex-JW should read that book. Reminds me of a certain religious leader who decided to ban almost every celebration under his authority on an entire group of followers. My little guy told me that he was sorry that my parents didn't let me have Christmas, made me wear fancy clothes to school every day, and never had a birthday. So, we talked about "party pooper" people. People who always see the negative in things, even good things. I turned it into a lesson to focus on the positive. He totally gets it. Anyway, i am proud parent of my little man!
Skeeter
i am very interested in hearing from people who really think that people with tattoos are somehow weird or cagey individuals.
i would just like to get your outlook on this matter.
today i was in a grocery store and i sawe this guy with his two kids and his wife shopping.
When I first saw tattoos (during and after JWism), I recoilled. My first reaction was to think they are not so cool. Someone has to be a posterboard for his cause. Why not just buy a t-shirt that says it? I put them up there with Cameros, Mullets, and Pissing Hobbs stickers. I really did label the person.
Now, I try very hard to not judge. I sold my high horse. Everyone is different, and a tattoo is their symbol to the world. I've seen a few tattoos that were cool. One, on a mom who lost her son. It was a tattoo about her son. Another, who had her entire leg in a "totem pole" of children's faces. Those were her children. I think you need to ask the people about the tattoo before you go into judgemental mode. They could be very warm & loving people who are finding a way to express themselves. Or, it could be that they did live to excess on night, and came home with an unexplained tattoo (which is always funny). Or, it could be a man who got a Jessica Rabbit tattoo . . . I thought, "Dude, that's wierd that you lust after a cartoon rabbit."
Skeeter
just wondering on whether jwn gets more newbies that the wts gets bapstisms?
are there any statistics?.
this site's newbies usually lurk for a month or two, with no interaction with us.
Just wondering on whether JWN gets more Newbies that the WTS gets bapstisms? Are there any statistics?
This site's newbies usually lurk for a month or two, with no interaction with us. They sign up here without an indoctrination, interactive bible study that requires repeat visits over the course of a year or two. Either JWN is pretty efficient at getting newbies or people are disagreeing with the WTS more & more and use JWN as a tool in their pathway to exiting.
never!!!
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I was told that I would become a JW again. I laughed and said, "Nope. I know too much about them."
nelson mandela has passed on.
he was a symbol of hope and peace to many.
has his life and achievements meant anything personal to members of jwn?.
I always smile when I see his face. He has such a wonderful face and smile, and I think that comes from deep inside of him.
Skeeter
has anyone seen this post on facebook?
the comments below it are staggering!
so many suffering from depression... along with the few judgementalists.
"A District Overseer gave his experience as an assembly"
My first thought,"Is this for real?" I can't imagine a District Overseer at any assembly being permitted to talk openly about his own depressionl illness and addressing his sound reasoning as to why it is hard for the mentally ill to attend a KH. And, then admonishing the judgemental. Wow. Is the DO an apostate? Isn't the assembly supposed to be a whipping session, trotting out all sorts of exemplary JWs to give their stories of finding the meetings and field service invigorating and the answer to life?
My second thought, "Wow, on the JW facebook comments on this article!" Seems many understand that the meetings are a pressure cooker of group think and are craving a well reasoned excuse to not attend the meetings and to do so without others being judgemental. 400+ comments in a day . . . something is afoot within the Borg.
i sure as eggs know which types don't:.
creative types: to do well at a creative industry one must dedicate a lot of time to developing one's talent, and as a jw one simply doesn't have time.
since writing a story or painting a picture doesn't contribute in any way to prestudy, meetings or fs results it's considered useless anyway.
People with Obsessive Compulsive Thought Disorder or Idealistic type people.
a friend of mine is an electrician supervisor.
back in 1975, one of his employees was a jw.
the jw was so convinced that 1975 would bring the end of the world, that the jw took off from work (like, the first week in january) and sat on the top of a north carolina mountain waiting for armegheddon.
No, my buddy didn't know what happened to the guy.
