Posts by skeeter1

23

Please contact me if you're in the US and between 18 and 40 and want to be on TV telling your story.

by AndersonsInfo in

jw
friends

contact me through my website at: http://watchtowerdocuments.org/contact-barbara/.

thank you,.

barbara.

skeeter1

Perhaps the program will give the WTS insight on why the young leave. Thanks Barbara for all your hard work. You are gem, and put that in your box!

Skeeter

23

trendingworld war onemanchester pride 2014manchester citymanchester unitedsport city centre music & nightlife food & drink jehovah's witness who told gym member yoga would let 'evil' into her body wins sacking case:http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/jehovahs-witness-unfair-dismissal-win-7555537.

a jehovahs witness who was sacked as a fitness coach after telling a gym member that yoga would allow evil into her body has won a pay out for unfair dismissal.. maciej grochowski, was sacked from his role at the virgin active gym in middleton after several warnings over complaints he was making staff and clients uncomfortable by discussing his beliefs.. he was finally given the boot after writing a series of e-mails to bosses spelling out his religious opinions on issues such as halloween and satanism.. an employment tribunal ruled he was unfairly dismissed as he had not breached the terms of a final warning banning him from discussing religion when it was unwelcome or made others feel uncomfortable.".

"mr grochowski was first warned about his behaviour in june 2011, after several members contacted the gym to see when he was working so they could avoid being there at the same time.

skeeter1

It looks like had his employer given him a total ban on talking about religion to his cohorts and customers, then the firing would have been justified. And, the court reduced his award by 75%. This shows that the court sided alot with the gym, but not completely. Anyway, he sounds like a trouble-maker. He came in on his off days and made very offensive comments to customers. Employers should carefully screen the hiring of religious zealots. One's employment should be to promote the business, not one's own religiion.

44

Disfellowed on 7/16/14 for sending a letter to my former congregation

by spbondgirl007 in

jw
friends

it's been quite a while since i lasted posted anything on jwn.

i was in hiding previously, but only because i wanted to avoid the shun gun until i had the opportunity to tell my former congregation what i think about the org./gb.

i last attended a meeting over 2.5 years ago but it wasn't until june--when i earned my bachelor's degree--that i finally had the time to collect my thoughts and get them down on paper...i decided to write my letter in a style i felt would be most appealing to my target audience--jw's still under gb mind control --in the hope that at least a few would read it and actually "think".

skeeter1

Welcome!

46

hello everyone

by purrpurr in

jw
friends

i've been browsing the site for some time as things that the society teach just are not adding up much these days.

by exploring some of the threads on here i'm starting to see why.

a brief bio.

skeeter1

Welcome. We are all on a journey of our lives and spiritual path.

My parents were JWs in the 40s and 50s. They were told to not go to college, pioneer, hold off on marraige, and not have kids. They met in the mid-60s and married and had me. They hoped 1975 was going to be the End. It wasn't, and they stopped attending. My father was disfellowshipped for bad behavior. In the 80s, we went back. Then, it was no longer 1975 that was the issue, the End was coming in the early 90s as the Generation of 1914 was not going to pass away. I was told to not go to college. At conventions, youth told stories about how sinful college was and their superior choice to pioneer instead of college. I left at about 18, and went straight into college. I got a degree and never went back to a Kingdom Hall. Meanwhile, my parents grew older. We had a baby. My parents desparately wanted to convert us because of the baby. When they came, they said that college was now more allowed. And, that they dropped the "generation of 1914" teaching. I was floored and laughed at them like becuase it was ridiculous back then. They thought that the changes were going to get me to come back. But, it just showed me that they Governing Body does not know what it is doing. By predicting the ever ending Armegheddon, they get the followers in a constant state of panic and need to go door to door to sell more literature/get converts.

Skeeter

37

New BOE Letter Re. Elders/MS Appointments and Deletions

by XBEHERE in

jw
friends

from the wording of the letter it seems that the co has been given carte blanche with appointments and deletions.

nowhere in the letter does it indicate that any records are sent to and from the co to the branch office.

even if a body wants to delete an appointed brother and he disagrees his only recourse would be to write a "brief" letter to the service dept.

skeeter1

It's not as much about civil liability, as it is about criminal culpability.

21

I realized I've been *hit on alot

by skeeter1 in

about a month ago, i realized that i didn't really care about my still-in jw family.

i just want to be left alone by them.

they caused me so much grief.

skeeter1

About a month ago, I realized that I didn't really care about my still-in JW family. I just want to be left alone by them. They caused me so much grief. I'm going to vent here, becuase I want to get it externilized so I can see it from afar.

To start off, my father left my mother a gazillion times when I was a baby. He was very immature and has always been a simpleton. He married my mom, a woman with 3 teenaged kids. In good JW fashion, they got married after a few weeks of dating. My mother had her own mental issues, but she had a maternal instinct to provide for me. My father, meanwhile, beat my mother. My first memory was sitting in a high chair, with him going after her. My father decided to get a divorce. He proudly states that he shopped for a divorce attorney who really knew the judges. He got one who played golf with the judge, and paid my mother $100 a month child support. Needless to say, we were starving and lost our home. We had to live with relatives, bouncing from house to house. Meanwhile, he had his sacred cows (dance classes and fancy suits) to buy. He was disfellowshipped. He was in his 40s, so you think he would have been more mature? Not.

I was about 7 or 8. I couldn't eat. I was a nervous wreck. I remember having the feeling of my stomach always being inside out. I couldn't concentrate on school. To make it all worse, my mom took me to the Kingdom Hall.

When I was about 8, my parents got back together. For my mother, it was a meal ticket. For my father, he realized that she was a good woman. But, his issues were not dealt with. He still beat my mother in front of me. He occassionally beat me too. One time, we had child protective services visit our "home." I was too afraid to talk to them, but it was nice knowing someone out there cared for me. My mother told me that they were worldly people, so I didn't want to tell them anything for fear they took me to a worldly home . . . where I'd be abused spiritually. Isn't that sick?

My father later went to a psychologist. Never 'normal' after that, but better in that he didn't hit me or my mother. Years later as he got older, he goes back to the Kingdom Hall. My mother feared it, thinking it was the JWs that made him crazy. Sure enough, he pulled a gun out one day when he was mad, sending my mother and sister out of the house. The local congregation pulled the bookstudy from the house. He's not right, he's just holding on by a thread. He puts on the sweet, JW personality. But, I am always suspect of his undercurrents despite that he's old and frail. My mother died a few years back, and my JW sister and him live together.

Lately, he and my sister have said things that makes me think that they talk alot about me, and that it's not good. I think they have nothing better to do. When I haven't given a family member money of late (they overspend on addicitons), they both turned on me. Both have said to me that I'm worthless and would be nothing without my spouse! They have both told me that I am "high on myself" (after not giving money). How serendipitous is that?

Of course, I don't beleive I am worthless piece of crap. My spouse, who is a gem, loves me. So, I can't be all that bad. I have given thousands to charity and to family members in true need. I hold two degrees, two professional designations, and have made some very good money in my lifetime. They were there to support me in college, but when they both went back to the JWs . . . my JW sister gives me (and my spouse who also has a college degree) digs. "Our cousin is a multi-millionaire, and he didn't go to college." Various members of my JW family always said that to us. Well, me and my spouse had a huge laugh, when Cousin ended up in federal prison for 5+ years due to financial fraud! I have a group of friends and other family members who like to spend time with me (not preach JWism) to me. I haven't tried to cheat my kids out of support. I don't beat them up. I don't beat up my spouse.

So, after realizing that they hold absolutely no respect to me, I have exited from them over this past month. You take someone who cares alot, and push them too far, and they just lose their ability to care. I've given them both a piece of my mind. For my father, I sent him a long list of some of the financial help I have given to family members and some of the ways the addicted person has extracted over a thousand dollars from me in the past, all in a very nice tone. He must have thought about it, and sounded "sorry" when he called me last week. Honestly, I didn't want to talk to him. He said that he's trying to help that addicted family member. I summarily said, "I wish her the best." I got him off the phone as fast as I could. I'm coming to grips that I've been *hit on alot, and that it's ok for me to be angry at them and to want to not be around them. They are toxic.

Thanks for reading this and allowing me to vent.

16

Thinking it through and not liking the result.

by donny in

today at work a co-worker of mine and i were having lunch at a nearby establishment.

he is what you would call a c&e christian in that he basically attends church only for the christmas and easter services, though he definitely says he believes in god.. he said that he just recently caught an episode of a crime/forensic show that featured a man from new jersey named john list who was also known locally as the "bogeyman of westfield.

" list became infamous for murdering his entire family consisting of his wife, three children and his mother on november 9, 1971. see below link for more data.. on the tv show the narrator commented there were a few reasons why he did it.

skeeter1

The result is f*ck*d up, because the god is f*ck*d up.

69

Said from the platform: "You are not surviving Armaggedon if you are spiritually weak"

by Daniel1555 in

today i was at the meeting (i go there about once a month now).

in the service meeting they had a part where they interviewed the secretary of the congregation.. so one question was: "why are the service reports so important?".

our secretary explained that the reports are important, because the elders can see, who is spiritually weak.

skeeter1

If the congregation lives in that much anxiety, no wonder there is so much psychosis and pill popping by JWs.

110

What song or line from a song bests describes your time as a JW?????

by karter in

waisted days and waisted nites.. freddy fender..

skeeter1

Phil Collins has my life. My time as an ex-JW.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLpfbcXTeo8

Send "I Don't Care Anymore" Ringtone to your Mobile

"I Don't Care Anymore"

Well you can tell ev'ryone I'm a down disgrace
Drag my name all over the place.
I don't care anymore.
You can tell ev'rybody 'bout the state I'm in
You won't catch me crying 'cos I just can't win.
I don't care anymore I don't care anymore

I don't care what you say
I don't play the same games you play.

'Cos I've been talking to the people that you call your friends
And it seems to me there's a means to and end.
They don't care anymore.
And as for me I can sit here and bide my time
I got nothing to lose if I speak my mind.
I don't care anymore I don't care no more

I don't care what you say
We never played by the same rules anyway.

I won't be there anymore
Get out of my way
Let me by
I got better things to do with my time
I don't care anymore I don't care anymore
I don't care anymore I don't care anymore

Well, I don't care now what you say
'Cos ev'ry day I'm feeling fine with myself
And I don't care now what you say
Hey I'll do alright by myself
'Cos I know.

'Cos I remember all the times I tried so hard
And you laughed in my face 'cos you held all the cards.
I don't care anymore.
And I really ain't bothered what you think of me
'Cos all I want of you is just a let me be.
I don't care anymore D'you hear? I don't care no more

I don't care what you say
I never did believe you much anyway.

I won't be there no more
So get out of my way.
Let me by
I got better things to do with my time
I don't care anymore
D'you hear? I don't care anymore
I don't care no more
You listening? I don't care no more
No more!

You know I don't care no more!

48

Today's "gay-bashing" and other embarrassing content public talk!

by stuckinarut2 in

oh wow..... the public talk today is certainly embarrassing for witnesses!.

started (completely left field too...seemed to come out of nowhere) with condemning homosexuality, and anyone who even tolerates it.

if you like tv shows or movies with gay characters, you are "just as bad" (eg modern family tv show).

skeeter1

If it was so wrong, why didn't Jesus condemn it?