Posts by skeeter1

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"You can't believe anything science says, they're always changing their minds.."

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i know this is going to come up in a conversation shortly, how would you respond to this?

i've had it said to me before, specifically about health, one week wine/eggs/milk/axle grease is good for you, next week it's not..

skeeter1

Scientific facts do change. They change because new theories are proven to be more correct through the use of the scientific method.

Next time one who believes that scientists make it up on the fly, should go see the priest instead of a doctor.

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Monotheists my ass!!!

by Crazyguy in

we have been taught that the hebrews were monotheists believing and worshiping in only one god, except for those times when they sinned and worship pagan idol gods.

their one true god is yahweh / jehovah.

comparing the book of genesis with older sumerian and babylonian writings what do we find?

skeeter1

My favorite quote, "In the beginning, man created God."

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just wanted to introduce myself

by TheMark in

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i've been a lurker for quite some time and enjoy the forum.

i've reached a point in life where i don't argue ideologies anymore so i don't have much to say.

i've been out for decades and believe i've been mostly de-cultabilized (if that's even a word).. my family is still in and i haven't had contact with them in years.

skeeter1

Welcome! Now, that you have the internet, you can waste alot of time with us (lol).

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Hypocritical video on jw.org "what's a real friend."

by stuckinarut2 in

have you watched the 4 min animated white board drawing video on jw.org called "what's a real friend?".

it is one of the most hypocritical pieces they have produced!.

it goes into detail explaining that real friends "don't judge you, dont talk about you behind your back, don't hold grudges, don't expect you to conform, and encourage individuality!".

The most judgemental of my relatives are JWs. I have been enjoying getting out of the Truth at 17, going to college, saving money, having a spouse and kids . . . for the past 40 years. I am upper middle class. They are livid. Snide comments to me and to my relatives and close friends. One non-JW relative told the JW relative that I bought a new truck. The sh** hit the fan. Instead of being happy for me, it was pure jealousy in tone. 'How much did Skeeter pay for it?' 'Why did Skeeter buy that model?'. I cut tthem off for my own sanity becuase they became sooooo damn judgemental. The truck was the last straw.

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What really woke me up: I started noticing most JWS are weirdos..

by kneehighmiah in

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thankfully my parents are converts so they aren't wierd.

seemed pretty popular by all accounts.

they are "popular" jws even now.

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Bat sh** nuts is how I describe 85% of the JWs. 15% are so humble, that the 85% really take advantage of them.

My sibling wanted to set up a play date with me and her bestie JW friend. This JW friend was a math teacher, intellectual, and soooo nice. I declined. Anyway, ended up the JW friend was on alot of meds and needed alot of professional help. Addictions, pain killers, bipolar, and stole money . . .

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My Wife Takes the "Spiritual Belief System" Quiz

by breakfast of champions in

so i asked my wife to take the "spiritual belief system" quiz online.

now, this is not claiming to be a scientifically accurate system to determine your religious affiliation, but i thought it would be an interesting exercise.. for those who haven't seen it, the questionnaire is here:.

http://www.selectsmart.com/religion/.

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Your Complete Results:

1.	Unitarian Universalism (100%)	More Info
2.	Secular Humanism (94%)	More Info
3.	Theravada Buddhism (86%)	More Info
4.	Sikhism (85%)	More Info
5.	Liberal Quakers - Religious Society of Friends (83%)	More Info
6.	Neo-Pagan (80%)	More Info
7.	Non-theist (79%)	More Info
8.	Reform Judaism (78%)	More Info
9.	Jainism (71%)	More Info
10.	Mahayana Buddhism (69%)	More Info
11.	Taoism (69%)	More Info
12.	Scientology (66%)	More Info
13.	Hinduism (64%)	More Info
14.	Orthodox Quaker - Religious Society of Friends (63%)	More Info
15.	Mainline - Liberal Christian Protestants (62%)	More Info
16.	Bahai (62%)	More Info
17.	Islam (62%)	More Info
18.	New Age (61%)	More Info
19.	New Thought (58%)	More Info
20.	Orthodox Judaism (53%)	More Info
21.	Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (50%)	More Info
22.	Mainline - Conservative Christian Protestant (47%)	More Info
23.	Christian Science Church of Christ, Scientist (45%)	More Info
24.	Seventh Day Adventist (29%)	More Info
25.	Eastern Orthodox (27%)	More Info
26.	Roman Catholic (27%)	More Info
27.	Jehovahs Witness (20%)

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NewsMax: Prominent Jehovah's Witnesses: Tight Pants Designed by "Homosexuals' (Sociological approach)

by skeeter1 in

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thursday, 13 nov 2014 10:18 am.

by nick sanchez.

better known as tight pants.

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btt

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God is not genocidal

by mistified in

so at the meeting a few weeks ago the speaker was having a talk about inactive people and then he went on about how people think the god of the old testament was cruel and genocidal.

he then said that god and did not commit genocide because everything he did was for a reason.

i was shocked at how stupid that saying was.

skeeter1

Loving Jehovah. Amazingly, people say that they have a reason for a killing too! Even Hitler was justified. The formula throughout history is: 1) Make the people your enemy via talk, 2) Kill in the name of justice.

Killing Event		Reference	Bible's Number	Estimate
1	The Flood of Noah	Gen 7:23		20,000,000
2	Abraham's war to rescue Lot	Gen 14:17-19		1,000
3	Sodom and Gomorrah	Gen 19:24		2,000
4	Lot's wife	Gen 19:26	1	1
5	While they were sore, Dinah's brethren slew all the males	Gen 34:1-31, Judith 9:2-3	2	1,000
6	Er for being wicked in the sight of the Lord	Gen 38:7	1	1
7	Onan for spilling his seed	Gen 38:10	1	1
8	A seven year worldwide famine	Gen 41:25-54		70,000
9	There will be blood: The first plague of Egypt	Ex 7:15-27 , Wis 11:7-8		10,000
10	The seventh plague: hail	Ex 9:25		300,000
11	Firstborn Egyptian children	Ex 12:29-30		500,000
12	The Lord took off their chariot wheels	Ex 14:8-26	600	5,000
13	Amalekites	Ex 17:13		1,000
14	Who is on the Lord's side?: Forcing friends and family to kill each other	Ex 32:27-28	3,000	3,000
15	Aaron's golden calf	Ex 32:35		1,000
16	God burns Aaron's sons to death for offering "strange fire"	Lev 10:1-3	2	2
17	A blasphemer is stoned to death	Lev 24:10-23	1	1
18	When the people complained, God burned them to death	Num 11:1		100
19	While the flesh was still between their teeth, the Lord smote them will a very great plague	Num 11:33		10,000
20	Ten scouts are killed for their honest report	Num 14:35-45	10	110
21	A man gathering sticks on the Sabbath day is stoned to death	Num 15:32-35	1	1
22	Korah, his companions, and their families are buried alive	Num 16:27	3	9
23	God burns 250 people to death for burning incense	Num 16:35	250	250
24	God kills 14,700 for complaining about God's killings	Num 16:49	14,700	14,700
25	The massacre of the Aradies	Num 21:1-2		3,000
26	God sent serpents to bite people for complaining about the lack of food and water	Num 21:6		100
27	Phineas's double murder: A killing to end God's killing	Num 25:1-11	24,002	24,002
28	The Midianite massacre: Have ye saved all the women alive?	Num 31:1-35	6	200,000
29	God slowly killed the Israelite army	Dt 2:14-16		500,000
30	God the giant killer	Dt 2:21-22		5,000
31	God hardens King Sihon's heart so all his people can be killed	Dt 2:33-34	1	5,000
32	Og and all the men women, and children in 60 cities	Dt 3:6	1	60,000
33	The Jericho massacre	Jos 6:21		1,000
34	Achan and his family	Jos 7:10-26	1	5
35	The Ai massacre	Jos 8:1-25	12,000	12,000
36	God stops the sun so Joshua can get his killing done in the daylight	Jos 10:10-11		5,000
37	Five kings killed and hung on trees	Jos 10:26	5	10,000
38	Joshua utterly destroyed all that breathed as the Lord commanded	Jos 10:28-42	7	7,000
39	The genocide of twenty cities: There was not any left to breathe	Jos 11:8-12	2	20,000
40	The Anakim: some more giant killing	Jos 11:20-21		5,000
41	The Lord delivered the Canaanites and Perizzites	Jg 1:4	10,000	10,000
42	The Jerusalem massacre	Jg 1:8		1,000
43	Five massacres, a wedding, and God-proof iron chariots	Jg 1:9-25		5,000
44	The Lord delivered Chushanrishathaim	Jg 3:7-10	1	1,000
45	Ehud delivers a message from God	Jg 3:15-22	1	1
46	God delivers 10,000 lusty Moabites	Jg 3:28-29	10,000	10,000
47	Shamgar killed 60 Philistines with an ox goad	Jg 3:31	600	600
48	Barak and God massacre the Canaanites	Jg 4:15-16		1,000
49	Jael pounds a tent stake through a sleeping man's skull	Jg 4:18-22	1	1
50	Gideon's story: The Lord set every man's sword against his fellow	Jg 7:22	120,000	120,000
51	A city is massacred and 1000 burn to death because of God's evil spirit	Jg 9:23-27	1,001	2,000
52	The Ammonite massacre	Jg 11:32-33		20,000
53	Jephthah's daughter	Jg 11:39	1	1
54	42,000 die for failing the "shibboleth" test	Jg 12:4-7	42,000	42,000
55	Samson murdered 30 men for their clothes	Jg 14:19	30	30
56	Samson killed 1000 men with the jawbone of an ass	Jg 15:14-15	1,000	1,000
57	Samson killed 3000 in a suicide terrorist attack	Jg 16:27-30	3,000	3,000
58	A holy civil war (it had something to do with rotting concubine body part messages)	Jg 20:35-37	65,100	65,100
59	The end of Judges: two genocides and 200 stolen virgins	Jg 21:10-14		4,000
60	God killed Eli's sons and 34,000 Israelite soldiers	1 Sam 2:25, 4:11	34,002	34,002
61	God smote them with hemorrhoids in their secret parts	1 Sam 5:1-12		3,000
62	50,070 killed for looking into the ark of the Lord	1 Sam 6:19	50,070	50,070
63	The Lord thundered a great thunder upon the Philistines	1 Sam 7:10-11		1,000
64	Another Ammonite massacre (and another God-inspired body part message)	1 Sam 11:6-13		1,000
65	Jonathan's first slaughter	1 Sam 14:12-14	20	20
66	God forces the Philistines to kill each other	1 Sam 14:20		1,000
67	The Amalekite genocide	1 Sam 15:2-3		10,000
68	Samuel hacks Agag to death before the Lord	1 Sam 15:32-33	1	1
69	In the valley of Elah: Goliath	1 Sam 17:51, 2 Sam 21:19	1	1
70	David buys a wife with 200 Philistine foreskins	1 Sam 18:27	200	200
71	The Lord said to David, Go and smite the Philistines	1 Sam 23:2-5		10,000
72	God killed Nabal (and David got his wife and other stuff)	1 Sam 25:38	1	1
73	David commits random acts of genocide for the Philistines	1 Sam 27:8-11		60,000
74	David spends the day killing Amalekites	1 Sam 30:17		1,000
75	God kills Saul, his sons, and his soldiers (because Saul didn't kill all the Amalekites)	1 Sam 31:2, 2 Chr 10:6	4	100
76	David kills the messenger	2 Sam 1:15	1	1
77	David killed, mutilated, and hung Rechab and Baanah	2 Sam 4:12	2	2
78	God helps David smite the Philistines from the front and the rear	2 Sam 5:19-25		2,000
79	God killed Uzzah for trying to keep the ark from falling	2 Sam 6:6-7, 1 Chr 13:9-10	1	1
80	David killed two-thirds of the Moabite POWs and enslaved the rest	2 Sam 8:2		667
81	And the Lord gave David victory wherever he went	2 Sam 8 - 10	65,850	66,850
82	David killed every male in Edom	2 Sam 8:13-14, 1 Kg 11:15-16, 1 Chr 18:12, Ps 60:1	15,000	25,000
83	Thus did David do to all the children of Ammon	2 Sam 11:1, 1 Chr 20:1		1,000
84	God slowly kills a baby	2 Sam 12:14-18	1	1
85	Seven sons of Saul are hung up before the Lord	2 Sam 21:1-9	7	3,000
86	David's mighty men and their amazing killings	2 Sam 23, 1 Chr 11	1,403	3,400
87	God killed 70,000 because of David had a census that God (or Satan) told him to do	2 Sam 24:15, 1 Chr 21:14	70,000	200,000
88	Solomon murdered Job and Shimei (per David's deathbed wish)	1 Kg 2:29-46	2	2
89	A tale of two prophets	1 Kg 13:11-24	1	1
90	Jeroboam's son: God kills another child	1 Kg 14:17	1	1
91	Jeroboam's family	1 Kg 15:29		10
92	Baasha's family and friends	1 Kg 16:11-12		20
93	Zimri burns to death	1 Kg 16:18-19	1	1
94	The drought of Elijah	1 Kg 17:1, Luke 4:25, James 5:17-18		3,000
95	Elijah kills 450 religious leaders in a prayer contest	1 Kg 18:22-40	450	450
96	The first God-assisted slaughter of the Syrians	1 Kg 20:20-21		10,000
97	God killed 100,000 Syrians for calling him a god of the hills	1 Kg 20:28-29	100,000	100,000
98	God killed 27,000 Syrians by making a wall fall on them	1 Kg 20:30	27,000	27,000
99	God sent a lion to kill a man for not smiting a prophet	1 Kg 20:35-36	1	1
100	God killed Ahab for not killing a captured king	1 Kg 20:42, 22:35	1	1
101	God burned 102 men to death for asking Elijah to come down from his hill	2 Kg 1:10-12	102	102
102	God killed Ahaziah for asking the wrong God	2 Kg 1:16-17, 2 Chr 22:7-9	1	1
103	God sent bears to kill 42 boys for making fun of a prophet's bald head	2 Kg 2:23-24	42	42
104	The Lord delivered the Moabites	2 Kg 3:18-25		5,000
105	A skeptic is trampled to death	2 Kg 7:2-20	1	1
106	God's seven year famine	2 Kg 8:1		7,000
107	Jehoram of Israel	2 Kg 9:24	1	1
108	Jezebel	2 Kg 9:33-37	1	1
109	Ahab's sons: 70 heads in two baskets	2 Kg 10:6-10	70	70
110	Ahab's hometown family, friends, and priests	2 Kg 10:11		20
111	Jehu killed Ahaziah's family	2 Kg 10:12-13, 2 Chr 22:7-9	42	42
112	Jehu and his partner kill the rest of Ahab's family	2 Kg 10:17		20
113	Jehu assembled the followers of Baal and then slaughtered them all	2 Kg 10:18-25		1,000
114	Mattan the priest of Baal and Queen Athaliah	2 Kg 11:17-20	2	2
115	God sent lions to eat those who didn't fear him enough	2 Kg 17:25-26		10
116	An angel killed 185,000 sleeping soldiers	2 Kg 19:34, 37:36	185,000	185,000
117	God caused King Sennacherib to be killed by his sons	2 Kg 19:37, Tobit 1:21	1	1
118	Josiah killed all the priests of the high places	2 Kg 23:20		100
119	Just another holy war	1 Chr 5:18-22		50,000
120	God killed a half million Israelite soldiers	2 Chr 13:17-18	500,000	500,000
121	Jeroboam	2 Chr 13:20	1	1
122	God killed a million Ethiopians	2 Chr 14:9-14	1,000,000	1,000,000
123	Friendly fire: God forced "a great multitude" to kill each other	2 Chr 20:22-25		30,000
124	God made Jehoram's bowels fall out	2 Chr 21:14-19	1	1
125	God killed Jehoram's sons	2 Chr 22:1		3
126	Ahaziah of Judah	2 Chr 22:7-8	1	1
127	Joash, the princes, and army of Judah	2 Chr 24:20-25	1	10,000
128	God destroyed Amaziah	2 Chr 25:15-27	1	1,000
129	God smote Ahaz with the king of Syria	2 Chr 28:1-5	1	10,000
130	God killed 120,000 valiant men for forsaking him	2 Chr 28:6	120,000	120,000
131	The fall of Jerusalem	2 Chr 36:16-17		10,000
132	The Purim killings: God hath done these things	Esther 2 - 9, 10:4	75,813	75,813
133	God and Satan kill Job's children and slaves	Job 1:18-19	10	60
134	Hananiah	Jer 28:15-16	1	1
135	Ezekiel's wife	Ezek 24:15-18	1	1
136	Oh! Susanna	Dan 13:6-62	2	2
137	Judith is blessed above all women (for cutting off a sleeping man's head)	Judith 13:6-10	1	1
138	The Judith massacre: hang ye up this head upon our walls	Judith 15:1-6		1,000
139	Mathathias's double murder	1 Mac 2:24-25	2	2
140	Mathathias and his friends slay the wicked sinners	1 Mac 2:44		100
141	God killed Andronicus, the sacrilegious wretch	2 Mac 4:38	1	1
142	A Jewish mob killed Lysimachus, the sacrilegious fellow	2 Mac 4:42	1	1
143	God helped Judas Machabeus destroy the wicked	1 Mac 3:1-26, 2 Mac 8:5-6	800	4,900
144	Judas and his unarmed men kill 3000 of Gorgias's soldiers	1 Mac 3:44-4:24	3,000	3,000
145	The Hanukkah killings	1 Mac 4:34-5:7	5,000	17,000
146	The Machabees brothers slaughter the heathens	1 Mac 5:21-51	11,000	37,000
147	Nicanor's army: The Almighty being their helper, they slew above nine thousand men	1 Mac 7:32-47, 2 Mac 8:24, 15:27	147,002	147,002
148	Jonathan and Simon destroy the wicked out of Israel	1 Mac 9:46-49, 2 Mac 8:30-33, 10:61	1,000	1,200
149	Five heavenly horsemen cast darts and fireballs at the enemy	2 Mac 8:32-10:38	21,103	21,400
150	God killed Antiochus with an incurable bowel disease	2 Mac 9:5-28	1	1
151	Idumeans, traitors, and Jews in two towers	2 Mac 10:16-17	40,000	40,100
152	Nicanor's head: A manifest sign of the help of God	1 Mac 7:33-48, 2 Mac 15:1-35	35,000	35,000
153	Aliens at Cades	1 Mac 11:74	3,000	3,000
154	John burns to death 2000 in the tower of Azotus	1 Mac 16:10	2,000	2,000
155	God sent wasps to slowly destroy people	Wisdom 11:7-8		1,000
156	Ananias and Sapphira	Acts 5:5-10	2	2
157	Herod Aggripa	Acts 12:23	1	1
158	Jesus	Rom 8:32, 1 Pet 1:1820	1	1
	Totals		2,821,364	24,994,828

- See more at: http://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com/2010/04/drunk-with-blood-gods-killings-in-bible.html#sthash.TAHfzaH3.dpuf

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NewsMax: Prominent Jehovah's Witnesses: Tight Pants Designed by "Homosexuals' (Sociological approach)

by skeeter1 in

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thursday, 13 nov 2014 10:18 am.

by nick sanchez.

better known as tight pants.

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http://www.newsmax.com/TheWire/tight-mens-pants-homosexual/2014/11/13/id/607127/

Tight Men's Pants Designed by 'Homosexuals' to Be Indecent, Warn Jehovah's Witnesses

Thursday, 13 Nov 2014 10:18 AM

By Nick Sanchez

Anthony Morris III, member of the Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses since 2005, said in a Saturday sermon that tight pants are designed by homosexuals to make young men indecent, and compared them to tight-fitting spandex on women — which he said God also condemns.

"What’s happened now is that it’s really caught on more — the tight suit jacket and the tight pants. Better known as tight pants. They are tight all the way down to the ankles. It’s not appropriate. It’s not sound of mind," he said,

"Like I've been telling others — and this is a fact — the homosexuals that are designing these clothes, they like you in tight pants! That's who likes it. Not spiritual people."

According to Raw Story, Morris gave a similar speech this past summer against what he calls the "metrosexual look."

"Do you remember that many, many, many homosexuals are in the clothing industry and doing the designing," he said in July. "Don’t you know they love it when you’re wearing tight pants? Oh yeah, you chuckle. I don’t think it’s funny. I think it’s disgusting."

According to research published in the April 2012 issue of the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, those expressing negative attitudes toward homosexuals have a higher likelihood of being homosexuals themselves. Special The Truth About Social Security (AARP Expert Speaks) "Sometimes people are threatened by gays and lesbians because they are fearing their own impulses," study co-author Richard Ryan, a professor of psychology at the University of Rochester, told LiveScience.com after publishing.

"It appears that sometimes those who would oppress others have been oppressed themselves, and we can have some compassion for them too, they may be unaccepting of others because they cannot be accepting of themselves."

Ryan cautioned that "hidden homosexuality" is not the only source of negative attitudes toward gays, and that environmental factors — such as how one's raised — can also contribute toward such attitudes.

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Elders are going to the CO on me

by cognac in

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i celebrated halloween and my birthday and the elders have been told.

husband told the elders i've called the religion a cult.

they said i'm "heading down a road to be an apostate.

skeeter1

Yes, get a lawyer. Sometimes the "agreement" will require you stay in the same area. Many times, you have to get permission from the court (and your spouse) to move. Moving changes the visitation agreement and is set to harm the kids becuase you are taking them away from their own father. If it was "every other weekend", it might go to "every Summer with dad." So, to do this, you likely need a great excuse to move, job, health, etc. would be better.

Jobs are best in Texas, then in Florida, and then California. Look at Houston.