So cool, that alot of you came out with the overlapping generation. When that change came out, posters on .jwn knew it was going to wake up alot of folks. It did!
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Your final WTF? Moment!
by restrangled init was a long time coming for me.....when i read about the extened generations, after being raised on1914 being the be all end all, and millions would never die....that was the end.
i was part of the 1975 fiasco, the 6 month only truth book studies, suffered through a disifellowshipping and their version of a rewind.
i finally am free and hope others can eventually look in instead of inside looking out!
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New video release at district convention. Do Jws live like this?
by solomon ini just got back from the district convention and watched the new video.
can't remember what it is called but the main family live in a million dollar home and there teenage daughter drives a red convertable sports car.
probably worth about 50000$.
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Is the writer of this thread joking? Seriously, this type of message just can't be coming from the WTS. It's an about face and completely against JWism. If it is true, then they are trying to rebrand. They are also trying to raise the ideals for their followers, perhaps, make the followers richer and the WTS will be richer.
Is the Watchtower taking a page out of Scientology. Perhaps a GB member said, "Hey, why should we take all these poor shmucks as followers. Let's target the rich ones."
I was in the Boca Raton congregation in the early to mid 80's (time of Lifestyles of the Rich & Famous, Material Girl, and Miami Vice). The elders told our congregation to not flaunt our wealth, if we had any (most were upper middle class) at any convention or even within the congregation as the love of "big" things was loving this world and being materialisitc. Those without a BMW or Mecedes, talked about the ones in the congregation that had one. Or, lived in Boca's exclusive communities. They were viewed as needing to change their apparearance, so as not to 'stumble' others.
I also remember a WT article on being a slave to fashion. It showed materialism.
I think this video is going to stumble the long term humble.
Anyway, let me know when the cruise ship shows up, the Governing Body starts wearing strange clothes, and the William's sisters start jumping up & down on Oprah's couch screaming they are "happy." Perhaps the JWs and Scientology will merge.
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Blood in whose army!?
by sunny23 inused this method to logically convince my friend who is also dfd of one of many reasons as to why i shall never return and he agreed.
let me know if anything is false or misleading and we can revise :).
blood transfusions:.
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Your final WTF? Moment!
by restrangled init was a long time coming for me.....when i read about the extened generations, after being raised on1914 being the be all end all, and millions would never die....that was the end.
i was part of the 1975 fiasco, the 6 month only truth book studies, suffered through a disifellowshipping and their version of a rewind.
i finally am free and hope others can eventually look in instead of inside looking out!
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First wake up. When an elder who was a doctor told me that I shouldn't have college hopes becuase this system was going to end. It was 1985.
My final WTF was when I found some misquotes. Bad ones. Totally taken out of context. I thought, "The Truth is a L-I-E."
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Article: To save trauma victims, doctors may swap blood with cold water till patients die
by AndersonsInfo into save trauma victims, doctors may swap blood with cold water till patients diedoctors at the university of pittsburgh medical center plan to treat trauma patients with an experimental procedure that induces hypothermia by replacing their blood with freezing saltwater.. .
by kate murphy.
the new york times.
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Science is advancing, and the doctors must feel confident that they can do this. But, it is a pure experiment. Why isn't the Armed Forces doing this on soldiers, first, rather than subject the general population?
I wonder how many of the gunshot wound victims are inner city people. Where's the exact waiver that the person signs? i don't see how a mass notice in newspapers and advertising can take away one's right to informative choice of a medical procedure that is this experimental and potentially dangerous. I think too much could go wrong, and too much is unknown. Without individualized informed consent, this can be viewed as doctors preying on the poor. I can see the tort attorneys making a killing on this, even if there is only a "little" brain/nerve/kidney/heart/organ damage.
Another angle. Would the WTS allow JW doctors/nurses to, basically, kill the patient? Is that murder? There's a possibility that the person will be revived, but it isn't 100%. Is it suicide for a follower to subject themselves to it? It's different than going to sleep, it's a complete bloodletting. I would think JWs would be against this. Blood has to be returned to the ground, and not the body. If JWs can't save their own blood in advance of a surgery, how can they do this? Oh, I forgot, the WTS allows "current therapy" of one's own blood for medical tests. Call it "current therapy" and the JWs can then be bloodletted and have it all put back into them.
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Dating Advice needed
by KateWild inwell i joined two dating sites yesterday and i have had lots of messages.
a couple of guys want to chat to me by phone to get to know me better.
i've been asked out on two dates.
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New Leaflet to give to JW about TTATT
by TJ Curioso inhi to all my fellows "apostates" in all world... especially in e.u.a.
and uk.. as some of you already know, ex-jw in portugal created a leaflet especialy to send to jw in all the country (individualy or to congregations).
we must say that it was a sucess from the point of view of the impact originated.
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is going to a strip club a disfellowshipping offense?
by monis1 ini'm pretty sure it is, just wanted to confirm.
this would be someone who went once and only looked....
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A JW woman/relative told me that back in the late 60's, the JWs would go to the Go-Go dance clubs. Her husband "made" her go. She walked out when she saw the dancers with covering on their nipples only. Her husband and the others stayed, and reasoned that the dancers were not naked so it was art. Husband was later disfellowshipped for other reasons, and the whole congregation was closed. No one was disfellowshipped for going to a "go-go".
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I'm afraid I'd be single for life
by ohnightdivine inthis is quite embarrassing for me to share, but as a 30+ year old single female i have lingering doubts as to whether i can still meet a decent man and get married.. you all know how difficult it is for sisters to find an appropriate partner in the congregation.. and now, all the more so that i've learned ttatt.
i still am bound by low self-esteem, and i do have trust issues, especially with men.
i am very lonely and so i just keep myself busy with work to avoid depression (although it is also a great source of stress).. any other single females out there having similar thoughts?.
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I had similar problems to you.
I had to figure out that I was a catch too. I bet you have a lot of good qualities. Write them down, and look at them periodically.
Realize that the men (and some women) in the WTS are likely loony tunes pretending to be good people. I think alot of JWs come into the religion from an abusive or neglected past. They get no real pyschological help. The pressures inside the religion to be conforming, mkae even the sanest nutty.. And, it makes many really off. Remember, the JWs have a high incident of mental illness. I have a sibling in the "Troof" who told me that she wouldn't marry any man in the "Troof". Some elder had his wife mysteriously die on a cruise ship, and then married another sister a few weeks later. I remember many of the "good men" beat their wives, or were just cocky bastards at least. Realize, that the pier you've been fishing off of had alot of stinky fish full of bones.
Realize that outside the JWs, are alot of mentally balanced people. Yes, there are loony's too. But, there are alot of smart, witty, independently thinking "worldly" people.
Look at the people who are around you. Note the ones who are happily married for a long time. Put snapshots of them into your mind.
Get outside and find a hobby. There might be some men for you to meet there.
Meeting and dating men (or women) is a journey, and not always a destination. You may have to go to thousands of dinners to find the right guy. Enjoy the dinners and dates out. Don't get hooked into that the (first or second) man is going to be your next husband. I think most JWs are really trained well to not date, but just say "I DO" far too soon.
Skeeter (happily married for 20 years). I don't know anything about on-line dating.
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Detroit International Convention, June 6-8 - IS the public invited?
by Faithful Witness inmy mom was worrying out loud, about inviting the "public" to this event.
she told me they were announcing that people were not booking their hotels fast enough, and "we don't want to make the jw's look bad!
she told me about a promotional video they all watched, full of propaganda about the ford field house and all the arrangements that had been made for transportation and parking, and the city of detroit.
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*****UPDATE*****(with question if anyone went to it)
I saw in the news that the convention had 45,000 people in attedance. Is that low for an "international Convention"
Then, I wondered what the capacity of that stadium, Ford Stadium, was? It's 65,000 people . . . upwards of 80,000 people for some expanded seatings. Does anyone know if the JWs changed the seating? Were there empty seats? How many regular JWs are in the Michigan and surrounding states? If there are 8,000,000 supposed JWs, then why wouldn't this stadium have move people in it?