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61

TWO down and counting

by crossroads in

jw
friends

this weekend in texas a man from over their was killed.

only reason the way he looked.

in mesa az.

RC
"No "war" was necessary; the perpetrators were dead."
They are dead in this case too.
People who fed the boys at the local Mickey D's were not shot.
People who sold them clothes at the local Wal-Mart were not
bombed. The Parents who housed them were not hung and
didn't have there homes leveled.

You go on..........
"Initially, it was believed that this was an act of terrorism perpetrated by Afghanistan; only later was it determined that it was one of our own who committed this horrible crime (excellent points, teejay). " So is it if an American kills innocent people
and bombs a government building it is not Terrorism, I don't
know what your trying to say here because you go on.........

" group that uses terrorism as a means to further its cause or draw attention to a belief system should fall under scrutiny; not "just the Afghans" or "just the Young Nazis." " Thats my point
if we have a WAR on Terrorism why haven't OUR own Terrorist
been rounded up and questioned. Training sites bombed we
know where they are. I mean if it really is a War on Terrorism.

If Bin Laden gave himself up would you be happy . Conflicted
woud that satisfy you. Oh remember he gets a trial don't be
too disappointed if he walks---They will never connect the dots
all the way back to actually him. We did not go after the guy who
wrote the book Tim had in his car.

Finally Conflicted my music buddie you are right this is a WAR
on Afganistan and probably Iran a war that his Dad didn't finish.
I just want people to know that . I want the government to be
honest and say that. But they can't and they won't . "Oh what
a tangeled web we weave when we practice to decieve"

"War is not the answer for only love can conquer hate"

61

TWO down and counting

by crossroads in

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friends

this weekend in texas a man from over their was killed.

only reason the way he looked.

in mesa az.

crossroads

This weekend in Texas a man from over THEIR was killed
only reason the way he looked. In Mesa AZ. a part of the
greater PHX. valley, a man with THAT kind of beard with
THAT kind of head ware speaking in THAT kind of voice
was gunned down at his job. He was from India a Sikh.

Two white middle class teenagers dressed in leather coats
walk into a Colorado High School and TERRORIZE their school killing many students. NO teenage white males in
leather coats gunned down. NO War on Terrorism waged.

In Okla. the Federal building is bombed around 160 people
die. No young white males with crew cuts are gunned down.
In what all news anchors call the worst act of terrorism ever
on American soil(up to that time) NO war on terrorism is waged.

In a thread a person asked all us Doves well them what should
the President do first? If their is really a war on Terrorism being
waged why in this past week haven't the Feds. rounded up
all members of White Hate Groups who Terrorize, KKK,
Young Nazi's , the people who want to over throw the government
like Tim's crowd of which their are many. The FBI has the names
they know where there sites are where they train people to fight
and terrorize.

But Crossroads this is America WE can't do that. It's the Home
of the Brave and the Land of the Free. It is for the W.A.S.P.
The War on Drugs has not worked what it has done is put
many, many, way to many young Black men in jail. This War
on Terrorism that we are being sold won't work either. For in
reality it is not a WAR on Terrorism. This is JR. finishing a WAR
that SR. walked away from.

"War is not the answer only love can conquer hate"

7

Blowin' in the Wind

by crossroads in

forgive my spelling and my rambling.. i look at stevie i think i really let him down.

we are suppose.

to hand off a better world to our kids-i wonder if i'll have one.

crossroads

Forgive my spelling and my rambling.

I look at Stevie I think I really let him down. We are suppose
to hand off a better world to our kids-I wonder if I'll have one
to hand off. This should be a wake up call for ALL.The President
wants us to go back to our normal way of life.Maybe it is Time
to change normal.

No bigger a Baseball fan from 1968--1992 than I. But why
should baseball start back up---why should we pay them
more money to play a game then a person who educates
are young......Are they really important or just a new drug.
Should a family of 4 spend $200 dollars in three hours to
go to a stadium when refugees in Aganistan have nothing
to eat no place to run---yet we want to sit and pretend to have
fun.

It's time to change normal

Until Tuesday we sat safely in our homes and told the foes
in Northern Ireland and the Mid-East violence only breeds
violence--Negotiate Negotiate---So why are we going against
our own council to others.

I feel that my generation and that of my old sisters let the
world down. When RFK & MLK went down we stopped
marching. We succumbed to Nixon and power, and then
we were bought off by the all mighty dollar. We were happy
(yeah right) we were safe(I think not). We let our government
do whatever and not take notice---we were well fed, two cars,
4 tv's, 2 vcr's a dvd and cd player on and on. We are all fat and
do not know what life is all about.

I believe we are at the brink of prophecy and we can choose
to let it happen or we can stand together and say no god not
yet not on our watch. We turned back in 1963 and we can turn
back now. We have seem more love world wide this week
then I have ever seen in my 44years here.

We are so close to Lennon's Imagine closer than ever.
We are so close to Gods Armageden closer than ever.
They are both in Arms length I pray for my boys sake we
reach out for John's Dream, I fear that we will let them lead
us into the great war.

As you walk on think about what has real importance,
Hug your loved ones----use your money for good,
use your time for the same---Yes I am just a dreamer but
I'm not the only one---It's time to make a stand it is time
not to fight our fellow man it's time for all of us to hold
hands look up in the sky and say Enough God Enough we
are tired of your game we choose not to play anymore.
Your wrong we can get along---It's time to change normal.

28

No counter strike? How else would you punish them?

by MrMoe in

jw
friends

for those of who don't care for a counter strike or killing those who committed this horrendous crime - how would you go about stopping terrorisim and punish the wrongdoers if you were president?.

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crossroads

Jelly from the idiot child,
"I’ll tell you the whole of Europe would have been dominated by Stalin style communism."
Yeah only HALF of Europe was---East Germany, Poland
and the like got Stallin instead of Hitler they were happy.
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[1] What would the world be like if America had not opposed Stalinist Russia? I don't know . What would the world be like
if Bobby and Martin hadn't been gunned down?

[2] If Bin Laden is only attacking us because of our support of dictators why is he attacking other Islamic states like Jordan and Saudi Arabia? Bin Laden is attacking because he can we showed him how. And because he wants us out of the
Holy Land.
[3] Does not World War II prove that sometimes war is necessary and (although horrible in execution) the outcome makes the world a better place? Was the world a better place is it now?
During the Cold War the END was closer than ever. It will get very very close this time"A Hard Rain is Gonna Fall"

"Your simplistic views are simply sad, if you were 10 it would be understandable." Yeah aiding and funding terrorist around the
world and then stamping our feet and crying after they turn
on Poppa is a very ADULT reason to get the belt out and
give them a wooooopin'. The nerve of them.

Sorry to see you not signing up for your cause---your answer
if you call it that was pathetic.Looks like your not doing anything

28

No counter strike? How else would you punish them?

by MrMoe in

jw
friends

for those of who don't care for a counter strike or killing those who committed this horrendous crime - how would you go about stopping terrorisim and punish the wrongdoers if you were president?.

.

crossroads

Jelly I assume you are calling yourself an Adult so for
this great cause may I assume you enlisted this week.
You are going to but your money were your mouth is right.
I mean your life on the line for your cause. We backed the
Afgans because we could and wanted to and we had a
good laugh about it. The Cold War had nothing to do about it.
We were happy the Russians now had their Viet Nam, hey
lets fund the North.Stay on point I'm not talking about Europe.

Bin Laden is attacking the U.S. because he can and he is
having a good laugh about it. He does want us to do something
he wants us out of the Arab lands.

"Idiots. Only children expect perfect justice in the world, adults realize sometimes you must make compromises for the greater good." I guess killing defenseless men, women and childern
is an adult compromise you are willing to live with oh as long
as their Jappanesse-Budhist-Hindu-Arab or Muslim.

"War is not the answer only love can conquer hate"

P.S. REMEMBER CHILIE

3

What does Osama bin Laden actually WANT?!

by nicolaou in

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to no one's surprise, secretary of state colin powell yesterday named osama bin laden as a prime suspect in tuesday's attacks.. bin laden's brutal record is well known.

the 1998 bombings of u.s. embassies in kenya and tanzania, the 1993 world trade center bombing, the 1993 killing of american soldiers in somalia, mid-'90s bombings of u.s. facilities in saudi arabia, and the 2000 attack on the uss cole.. authorities have prevented bin laden associates from launching attacks during the millennium celebrations, bombing a dozen trans-pacific flights in 1995, and assassinating the pope and president clinton in the philippines.. this is what bin laden does.

bin laden is the most notorious advocate of a potent strain of militant islam that has been gaining popularity in the muslim world for 30 years.

crossroads

TR --I am actually with you on that but it is a slipperary slope
we don't pick the good guys too often. But I am totally against
any major military action.For it will only make things much
worse. One big piont, hard to gun down someone you can't find

Nick--In your piece you do give what he wants. He dosen't
want to rule the world. He wants us out of the Holy Land.
I'm a little older than you and the Arabs never wanted us there
in the first place. We are only there for two reasons Isreal and
OIL OIL OIL OIL.

So the Question becomes are we willing to go to war over
Isreal? Second are we willing to go to war over oil of which
the Arabs have control in there countries. It is after all there
oil--we wouldn't have them on our land just because we have
a natural resource they so much want and need we wouldn't
give a rats ass why should they.

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No counter strike? How else would you punish them?

by MrMoe in

jw
friends

for those of who don't care for a counter strike or killing those who committed this horrendous crime - how would you go about stopping terrorisim and punish the wrongdoers if you were president?.

.

crossroads

Are you going to be on the front line can I count on it?

To start with stop US funding of Terrorist Regime's
through out the world. We funded the people to bring
down the Shaw of IRAN and look whats their. We then
funded IRAQ in it's war against IRAN (because we didn't
like how earlier funding worked out) and look what we
have. We funded the Afganistan rebels to fight the Russians
and well, do you get the point yet.

Would Hanging Bin Laden and Hussian from the tourch of
the Staute of Liberty satisfy you or do WE need to kill innocent
people too.

Before you start a war my dear you better look long and hard
at the cost and be willing to pay it ALL or it is all for naught.
I'm telling you right now the U.S. won't stomach what it seems
the majority wants. YOU NEED TO COUNT THE COST.
The President needs to ask WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY.
And be satisfied with the answers. He needs to look inward
not outward. He needs to not spend Trillions of dollars on a
space defense thats meaningless(which I oppossed before
this).

When the defense for all this was in place and they were
getting alerted from all over the world about what was to come. But they choose not to take seriously. Why should my rage
be towards the crazies and not my government for not doing
what I pay them for. My rage is for my government who funded
these crazies to begin with.

There will always be loonies on earth with various power at
various times we the U.S. have given the seed money for
many of them. STOP FUNDING THEM--STOP BEATING
THE DRUM SLOWLY--STOP U.S. SANCTIONED KILLING

"War is not the answer only love can conquer hate"

" HARDBALL " TERRORISM

by crossroads in

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friends

just saw the movie today.

being i've coached many .

little league teams and because of what happened on.

crossroads

Just saw the movie today. Being I've coached many
Little League Teams and because of what happened on
Tuesday it was very emotional.

I thought this would be a feel good movie about a down and
out, out of luck guy coaching a rag tag bunch of Getto kids
to the Championship (which happens). But it's not!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's about TERRORISM in the INNER CITIES of the good ol'
USA. I won't tell you anymore of the movie in case you want
to go see it. YOU SHOULD SHOW UP---especially now,

My question is if our government can not rid the Inner Cities
of Terror how is it going to rid the world's?

"War is not the answer only love can conquer hate"

P. S. For those who are beating the drum slowly please show
YOUR children to the front lines. And don't start Bitching when
gas is $5 a gallon no make that $10

12

War Predictions Page

by ISP in

jw
friends

the destruction of the wtc twin towers is likely to be one of the most significant events of modern history.

it is also likely that the us is going to launch an all out offensive in the next 24-48 hrs.

any predictions as to what will happen, consequences etc.

crossroads

Ranchette---Did you only read the Marvin Gaye Quote?
We RAISED that rattlesnake to bite. Now we our Horrorified
that it bit us. Why be surprised at or angry with it. As you say
thats it's nature. Was it to only bite the Russians or Iranians.

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War Predictions Page

by ISP in

jw
friends

the destruction of the wtc twin towers is likely to be one of the most significant events of modern history.

it is also likely that the us is going to launch an all out offensive in the next 24-48 hrs.

any predictions as to what will happen, consequences etc.

crossroads

A month or so.
Why not such a response for McVeigh----WAR---Against
american terroism? Hmmmm---WHITE----CHRISTIAN.
TWO----people paid for that. 19 people have paid for
what happened on Tuesday so far, REALLY how many
more were involved, 10-20.

The US government created Tim, Bin Laden, Hussien,
the Iran regien, Iraq crowd, Afganistan's leadership,
this is true and factual---We are reaping what we've sown,
why are we not upset with our own.

The American public does not have the stomach for whats
to come. It's young boys dying in distant lands.
Their should be a WAR a peaceful one fought in the streets
of Washington---Oh but the government won't let you there
now. We must look inward and ask why? Not outward doing
the blame game. Yes I'm in a very small minority now but I
won't cross over----I will embrace all of you in the majority
who are banging the drums of war---when your sons or daughters have died and you come for a place to hide.

Peace and Love---Mark
"War is not the answer only love can conquer hate"