Posts by elliej

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What's the worst injury or sickness you have seen participate at a meeting?

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

i once went to a 2 day assembly with 4 wisdom teeth pulled the day before.my gums were bleeding but i stayed at the assembly with gauze inside my mouth and rinsing my mouth every 10 minutes.a brother had major back operation a couple of days before but he made to the assembly laying on a mattress in the back of the hall for 2 days.wow!

we thought we were zealous.now i look back and see how stupid we were.

elliej

There was one woman in our congregation who had a baby on a Friday and came to the Sunday meeting, baby and all. Jeez, she didn't even get to miss one stinking meeting!

Hubby's relative had a baby in the morning and still made it to the district convention (2 1/2 hours away, mind you) in time for the afternoon session. Anytime anyone had a baby after that they got reminded of the faithfulness of that particular sister.

I have to say the worst affliction I have ever seen anyone show up at the hall with would be a family case of headlice. I don't care what anyone says, that is just wrong, for the family and for the rest of us.

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they caught me off guard...

by elliej in

okay, i just had a very nice witness lady at my door giving me my own personal copy of a very important message.

i had a whole "presentation" memorized to get her to think, but i couldn't do it.

she seemed really nice and kind of nervous and i instantly felt sorry for her and took the dang thing.

elliej

Okay, I just had a very nice witness lady at my door giving me my own personal copy of a very important message. I had a whole "presentation" memorized to get her to think, but I couldn't do it. She seemed really nice and kind of nervous and I instantly felt sorry for her and took the dang thing.

So here's my question: What is my best bet when she comes back (which I gave her permission to do)? Do I go with the "immoral sex" angle and let her in on how the Society has been fighting in California to protect the pedophiles? Or does that come off as too apostate? Is there a more subtle approach I can take that won't scare her away right off the bat? I was not honest and did not tell her I was formerly known as one of Jehovah's witnesses. I don't want to persecute her, just give her something to mull over. Any advice?

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False Prophets- Did the WT ever claim to be a Prophet?? Scans say YES!!

by Lady Liberty in

doing more digging and thought i would post this for any new ones.

first of all i would like to show you what the bible says about "flase prophets": deuteronomy 18:20. .

20 "however, the prophet who presumes to speak in my name a word that i have not commanded him to speak or who speaks in the name of other gods, that prophet must die.

elliej

If I may add to this one of my favorite bits from the Society on prophets:

The Watch Tower of May 15, 1930, pages 154-155, said:

".... a true prophet is one who is faithfully proclaiming what is written in the Bible ... But it may be asked, How are we to know whether one is a true or a false prophet? There are at least three ways by which we can positively decide: (1) If he is a true prophet, his message will come to pass exactly as prophesied. If he is a false prophet, his prophecy will fail to come to pass.... The difference between a true and a false prophet is that the one is speaking the word of the Lord and the other is speaking his own dreams and guesses.... The true prophet of God today will be telling forth what the Bible teaches, and those things that the Bible tells us are soon to come to pass. He will not be sounding forth man-made theories or guesses, either his own or those of others.... In the New Testament, and in our day, the word "prophet" has a thought similar to that of our word "teacher," in the sense of a public expounder. Hence when the term "false prophet" is used, we shall get the correct thought if we think of a false teacher."
By their own words they are condemned.

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The Great Taboo Discussion---Suicides among former Jehovah's Witnesses

by The wanderer in

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the great taboo discussionsuicides among former jehovah's witnesses to write about this discussion neither appeals to me nor does it make me feel comfortable to discuss it.. however, it is necessary to consider in light of all the trauma, negative experiences, and personal traged-.

ies that have happened to individuals on this board.

(what inspired me to write this subject was a bone chilling account .

elliej

I knew an elder who had been asked to step down (several years previous) because both of his children "left the truth" who killed himself. They refused to give him a Kingdom Hall funeral. His younger child had been studying at the time, attempting a comeback, but we never saw her again after that. Wonder why?

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August 15, 2006 "Do You Remember" Causes More ???s

by Schism in

boredom got the best of me, and i took a glance at the "do you remember?

" on pg 30 of aug 15th watchtower 2006.. the question: "under the law, why did certain natural sexual functions make a person "unclean"?".

the answer: "the laws concerning uncleanness ascribed to seminal emissions, menstruation, and childbirth fostered good hygiene and a healthy lifestyle, stressed the sanctity of blood, and showed the need for atonement of sins.".

elliej

But what about a guy who's had one in his sleep?

My husbands uncle, who had 5 sons, had the perfect solution for this problem: Simply do not allow your sons to have wet dreams. He literally gave this advice out to others. Now, I am not by any means an expert on nocturnal emissions, but I wasn't under the impression that they were at all voluntary. He told his sons that if they had a wet dream they must be guilty of impure thoughts. Here is a perfect example of a man who believes that he can control literally every aspect of his childrens lives (and succeeds).

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"Kingdom Hall Quickbuilds are only possible with God's Holy Spirit"

by under_believer in

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this is what you hear every time there's a part on the kingdom hall construction program.

they're only possible because god's holy spirit blesses the work.

otherwise, what is accomplished would be physically impossible.

elliej

First, there was nothing quick about my congregations quick build, we were out of a hall for at least 2 months and when we did get in, the quality was pretty crappy. Second, Ty Pennington and his crew do more in one week, so do they have holy spirit too? My father in law has many Amish neighbors, they do a sight better than the JWs, too, for what its worth.

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Funniest JW joke on TV

by brianhenke in

what is the funniest jw joke you saw on tv?.

many years ago, gary burbank had a tv special here in cincinnati in which a number of jw jokes were made (like teenage mutant nin jehovah's witnesses).. and there was this funny moment from the weakest link.

it wasn't supposed to be a joke, but it sure is funny:.

elliej

Scooby Doo 2. The gang falls through a trap door and on the way down first pass some girl scouts and then

two guys in suits who ask if they have heard the "good news". Scooby says, "Yeah, there's cookies!"

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Leaving the meeting early

by beautifulisfree in

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why is it that when ever you would leave the meetings any earlier then when they were all done...did you feel like everyone was watching you or even sometimes guilty?

sometimes, i would leave at 'halftime' (at the second song) either to go to work or just because i was having trouble dealing with the b.s.

and of course everyone was nosey and would ask my elder dad after the meetings where i went as though i was off to commit some horrible crime.

elliej

We also learned to leave in stages, first my husband would take our little one to the back and sneak out when nobody was looking, then I would grab the oldest and we would slide out during the song. We had to do this because if we ever got up together to leave the brother sitting in the back would get up and follow us out. Every time, no matter which one was back there. They always wanted to know if someone was sick? or is something wrong? Why are you leaving early, brother? Once I asked if there was some kind of a rule against it. The meetings are voluntary, right brother? I think they would have locked us in if they could have.

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AN ELDER SPOKE TO ME TODAY

by Dansk in

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most here will know of the serious illness i've been fighting for the past two years.

well, this morning i decided to go for a stroll to try and help build up my fitness.

at the bottom of my street lives an elder from my old congregation and i have to pass his house.

elliej

Hi Dansk! I don't think you were too hard on him either. You just posed a simple question. What does it have to do with him, he has shown what he thinks of you by his actions toward you. You did right in letting him know that how you are really has nothing to do with him. He should mind his own business in the future.

On another note, I do care how you are doing and I hope that you are feeling better soon.

elliej

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What impact did the internet have on your decision to leave the JW's?

by JH in

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on another thread, a co says that sites like these don't have much impact on their numbers.. personally i didn't leave because of this site or any other xjw site.. i was unhappy and felt that something was wrong and this site confirmed what i felt.. how about you?

elliej

If I had access to the internet when I found out that my boyfriend (now husband) was studying, neither one of us would have gotten sucked in.

It was instrumental in getting us out, it is where I get all my information, or find out where to get the information I need. Instrumental.

And if it wasn't really making a difference they wouldn't be making such a fuss about it.