I think I come through quite clearly. I'm just an old sweetie pie. (Now, now, loveylil, remember, we made nice!)
Nico - Every time I read your posts I start craving a nice bit 'o cheese.
Posts by Gregor
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81How closely does your online personality match the REAL you?
by nicolaou ini think i come across as a bit agressive online but in reality i know i'm extremely chilled - lazy some might say.
i'm greek you see and we do so love to argue the toss - loudly and insistently - and then have a game of tavli (backgammon) afterwards.
thing is most of my family are still jw's and as i can't do it with them you guys end up getting both barrels!!.
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Is There Any JW Belief That You Still Believe In?
by minimus inwould you have any qualms about taking blood??
do you believe in a paradise earth?
do you think there is only one "truth"?
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Yes, One of their oldest doctrines. I believe more strongly now than ever.
"Religion is a Snare and a Racket"
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How my mind has become more troubled .....
by troubled mind inwell our fade seemed to be going along pretty smoothly even with the slight hitch of having to attend the memorial .
then this weekend good old mother in law who lives a thousand miles away , and talks to us once every few months , called, on speaker phone no less .
i know she has informats here and she has been dropping hints for months that she knows something is up , but she never comes out and just asks .
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Have you ever seen that TV show, "Everybody Loves Raymond"? Your Mo-N-law sounds just like Marie Barrone. I feel for you dear. Better get your ammo ready and prepare for action. Life isn't for sissies!!
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Just a suggestion for all posters
by Gregor ini have no ax to grind, so to speak, but it would be nice to remember to click on an ad here once in awhile.
you don't have to buy anything.
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I have no ax to grind, so to speak, but it would be nice to remember to click on an ad here once in awhile. You don't have to buy anything.
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OK believers, time to put up or shut up...
by Gregor inapparently, a large percentage of xjw's who post on this site have embraced some other form of god/jesus belief to replace the wt doctrine.
most of them fall into the "i accept the lord jesus christ as my personal savior" class.
they are still extremely attached to the old "forgiveness of sin through the shed blood of jc" line.
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Ok, here's the deal...
Dammit!, I was about to post something brilliant, brilliant I tell you!
But the Sopranos starts in 11 minutes and I still have to get a slice of pie and a glass of milk.
See y'all later
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Do You Believe in The Supernatural?
by Blueblades inthe bible is chock full of information about the supernatural - ghosts, demons, spirits - and the list goes on.. the apostles, jesus, and god spoke of the supernatural.
the bible says that the supernatural is real.
does the "swine" ring a bell?
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You know, now that I think about it...
Every time I have ever dropped a p-nut butter sandwich, it has always landed jelly side DOWN! Unfortunately, each time it happened I was alone and no one could verify it. Goddammit! You guys are creeping me out!
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are we free?
by nomoreTRUTHplz ini don't mean this is as a debate, but merely an observation.
i have noticed that a lot (not all) of us post and participate in topics that are nothing but arguements and debates over what should be believed.
i have also been guilty of this, but just began to wonder, are we really free?.
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Terry,
Very well said.
I think there are two kinds of people in the world. Those who need a little glass of spiritual 'wine' to round off the edges that the harshness life can bring, such as dealing with death and tragedy and then there are those who, because of a rude awaking by a false, exploitive religion can never buy into it again. Maybe it is my misfortune to be one of the latter.
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OK believers, time to put up or shut up...
by Gregor inapparently, a large percentage of xjw's who post on this site have embraced some other form of god/jesus belief to replace the wt doctrine.
most of them fall into the "i accept the lord jesus christ as my personal savior" class.
they are still extremely attached to the old "forgiveness of sin through the shed blood of jc" line.
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AuldSoul,
Let me try to be clearer. Maybe the scriptural passages you refer to were meant to imply some of the greater cosmic possibilities you have expounded on. I DON'T KNOW, and have said as much. But I feel strongly enough about mainstream Christian theology to challenge it outright, based on logic, common sense, mankinds religous history and my up close and personal experience with the Watchtower Society, which I feel is a pretty good model in many ways of the miriad Christian denominations and sects. Do you consider yourself a Christian in the general sense I outlined in my previous post? If not, maybe you're looking for some disagreement that doesn't exist? I don't know, that's for you to say. I have enjoyed your thoughts and others. They have been intellectually stimulating.
Earlier today, under another topic, I explained the reasons I generated this topic to begin with. I am putting a link to it below. I stand by it.
Lovelylil, I would appreciate it if you would read it also, if you haven't already. I sincerely apologize for labeling you as I did. That is not my style and I will try to do better. If you will consider forgiving me, I thank you.
please refer to: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/112546/1967587/post.ashx#1967587
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Why does "god" permit evil, wickedness and tragic misfortune??
by Shining One ini don't know of anyone who can answer this question totally but i do like this man's response!
i've posted the link to this before.
rex .
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Abaddon, you remind me of someone I know!
The only problem with this essay, which basically says, if I followed it, that if an old pervert breaks into a home and steals a child while the family is sleeping and then spends several days abusing and torturing that child for his sexual gratification and then disposes of the child by burying her alive, it isn't evil, except in the minds of the parents and those of us who just don't understand.
Besides, this "explanation" is rejected by christian believers themselves! They attempt to offer a reason why God DOES allow this stuff. Basically, the story of Job in the OT supposedly gives us that reason. It is supposed to be an anti-typical model of the big picture regarding this question
I reject it as nothing more than proof that there is no intelligent, loving God/Father, to be pissed off with.
But I damn sure know there is evil.
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OK believers, time to put up or shut up...
by Gregor inapparently, a large percentage of xjw's who post on this site have embraced some other form of god/jesus belief to replace the wt doctrine.
most of them fall into the "i accept the lord jesus christ as my personal savior" class.
they are still extremely attached to the old "forgiveness of sin through the shed blood of jc" line.
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PS to my last post.
My original question re: "why [would] a loving God allow evil,...etc"
That question was framed in the context of the Christian dogma, which also includes the Watchtower teachings, ie, sin... sacrifice of perfect blood to pay the tab..., believe it... and be saved to everlasting life, physically or as a spirit. This is the teaching I was challenging.
You have brought in a lot of deep conceptual thoughts that, correct me if I misunderstood, are way outside of this basic 2000 yr old teaching of the book popular known as the Bible.
You bring up possible things that, all I can say is, Who am I to say them nay? and conversely, who are you to say them yea?
They are some damned interesting ideas.