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  What do you think heaven holds?

  by the widow in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  because of my background with the witless ones, when my husband died it was hard to believe he was in heaven.

  i could hope there is a heaven for those who die.

  that he is in a better place.

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  Clam

  If it's all it's cracked up to be - infinite progression, infinite harmony, infinite love.
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  How I handled Child Abuse cases when I was an Elder (1996-2006)

  by slmdf in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  hey ya'll.

  i know there is a lot of buzz due to the nbc story.

  i thought i'd share my experience as an elder dealing with abuse.. i attended 23 different congregations in my life and served as an elder or ms in 9 of them.

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  Clam

  This is such a good thread. Eye opening, informative, and very sad. Thanks for this slmdf. I take my hat off to you.
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  Champagne Bottle Sizes. What's the Theme?

  by Clam in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  champagne bottles come in a variety of sizes and are given specific names.

  can anyone from the jwd brain trust suggest what the naming theme is?

  nabuchadnezzar (20 bottles) nebuchadnezzar, originally nabu-kudurri-usur meaning "nabu protect the boundary," became king of the chaldean empire in 604 bc.

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  Clam

  Thanks Purps.
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  Please Enlighten Me

  by nomoreguilt in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  as you all probably noticed, i am new to this forum.

  i never knew there were so many of us of like mind and disenchanment.

  i believe that i have an awful to share and contribute here, but i am ignorant, not stupid , lol, to some of the abbreviations that are used in the dialogue.

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  Clam

  Welcome nomoreguilt,

  You've posted in Child Abuse by the way. You need to pick your category from the general forum, ie Friends might be more appropriate.

  Dubs is a general name for JWs - GB = Governing Body, Congo is a congregation, NWT is the JW bible, (also Not Wholly True), can't think of anymore at the moment.
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  Champagne Bottle Sizes. What's the Theme?

  by Clam in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  champagne bottles come in a variety of sizes and are given specific names.

  can anyone from the jwd brain trust suggest what the naming theme is?

  nabuchadnezzar (20 bottles) nebuchadnezzar, originally nabu-kudurri-usur meaning "nabu protect the boundary," became king of the chaldean empire in 604 bc.

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  Clam

  Champagne bottles come in a variety of sizes and are given specific names. Can anyone from the JWD brain trust suggest what the naming theme is?

  Nabuchadnezzar (20 bottles) Nebuchadnezzar, originally nabu-kudurri-usur meaning "Nabu protect the boundary," became King of the Chaldean Empire in 604 BC.

  Balthazar (16 bottles) Balthazar ("King of Treasures") is the traditional name of one of the Three Wise Men, the other two being Melchior ("King of Light") and Gaspar ("The White One").

  Salmanazar (12 bottles) Shalmaneser (alternatively spelled Salmanazar) was an Assyrian monarch who reigned around 1250 BC.

  Methuselah (8 bottles) Methuselah was an antediluvian patriarch described in the Old Testament as having lived 969 years and whose name is synonymous with great age. He may well have evolved from a character of earlier Sumerian legend who lived for 65,000 years.

  Rehoboam (6 bottles) A son of Solomon, Rehoboam (meaning "the clan is enlarged" according to Willard Espy) became king of Judah in 933 BC.

  Jereboam (4 bottles) Jeroboam (actually Jeroboam II), was the King of Israel during the year of Rome's founding (753 BC)

  Magnum (2 Bottles) A fictional American TV detective of the 1980s played by Tom Selleck.
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  Jonah written by Jonah?

  by LtCmd.Lore in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  why does everyone seem to think that the book of jonah was written by jonah?

  i couldn't find any reason for this anywhere online.

  i found plenty of religious sites that made the assertion, including the wts, but no reason for it.

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  I understand that the book of Jonah is read in its entirety on the day of atonement, probably the most holy day in the Jewish calender. This is apprently due to its story of God's willingness to forgive those who repent. I find this quite ironic since I've seen the book described as a kind of protest at the exclusiveness of a post exilic Judaism that championed the notion of an exclusive and "pure" race. In other words it offers the theme of Jehovah being not just the God of Isreal but the God of all nations. Narkissos I can think of a number of reasons why you might describe the author(s) as "smart", but specifically why do you say that?
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  Does the Society actually condemn Thanksgiving in print?

  by reneeisorym in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i've tried to find it in print while i was a jw about thanksgiving and couldn't find it.

  i actually convinced my relatives that the society never said thanksgiving was wrong.

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  Clam

  Ironic when you think that the Society has been flogging an enormous turkey for years.
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  get rich quick schemes, multilevel marketing, pyramid schemes and JWs

  by marmot in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  from my experience growing up in the jws there were two big recurring themes when it came to making money: .

  1 - window washing or other janitorial work .

  2 - cheezy "get rich quick" schemes and other cult-like sales practices .

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  Clam

  In an ideal world (paradise earth?) the WBTS could sell janitorial and window cleaning products through its vast sales network, ie the Witnesses.
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  JF Rutherford: Do Ya Think He Liked Attention??? (duh)

  by Open mind in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  well this week's book study wraps up the seventh trumpet blast of revelation.

  there was even a nice neat box showing how they all were "highlighted" by something the dubs did in the 1920's.

  almost all the blasts were some dry-as-toast, "look at me" speech given by jf rutherford at various conventions.

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  Clam

  Oh dear - "A Remarkable Fulfilment of Prophecy." The poor deluded souls. Thanks for posting that Leolaia. I've never seen that before.
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  get rich quick schemes, multilevel marketing, pyramid schemes and JWs

  by marmot in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  from my experience growing up in the jws there were two big recurring themes when it came to making money: .

  1 - window washing or other janitorial work .

  2 - cheezy "get rich quick" schemes and other cult-like sales practices .

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  Clam

  Conversely, the people selling these schemes love JWs because they come with a built-in trusting social network.

  Absolutely right. The JWs grow in a similar way that MLM businesses are designed to, ie so called geometric progression. One introduces 5 others, those 5 each introduce another five others making 25 and so on. The product is books and magazines, with the people at the top of the pyramid taking all the money and not paying commissions. It's a nice business model for the WBTS as people look to Jehovah to square them up and not the Society.