Mary, I too have just commented on Facebook and I would encourage all others reading this report to do the same. I can't believe some of the comments by other witnesses about how Jehovah looks after them. sick, sick, sick
Posts by alanv
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24Another JW Report from Haiti - this is sick....
by Bonnie_Clyde inhttp://www.ultimatebiblereferencelibrary.com/haiti_disaster__17.1.10_.pdf .
two paragraphs were really bad:.
"we suspect not a few of our young brothers and sisters attending universities may have died when those buildings crashed to the grounds with everyone in them.
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Another JW Report from Haiti - this is sick....
by Bonnie_Clyde inhttp://www.ultimatebiblereferencelibrary.com/haiti_disaster__17.1.10_.pdf .
two paragraphs were really bad:.
"we suspect not a few of our young brothers and sisters attending universities may have died when those buildings crashed to the grounds with everyone in them.
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alanv
Sick is definitely the right word for this report. How can anyone write of 100+ deaths and then start relating funny stories, or make a remark about how higher education won't do you much good. Can you imagine the relatives of those that have died reading this report.
They really think that they alone are so wonderful looking after a few JWs when everyone else is looking after hundreds of thousands. Words fail me.
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Confused by answers given by friend
by ArchDemon inhello,im not sure this is the right place to post,anyway ive never been a jw but i have a very good friend that is,lately her mother has been telling me to go to the meetings and i went only once because after that ive been to research alot about them and i didnt like what i saw at all.. anyway the thing is that i asked my friend is the following.
"can you disfellowship jw with no problem?
"she said "yes,you just need to inform them".. i already knew the answer should be no cause they are shunned and this couldnt possibly be,.
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alanv
Hi ArchDemon welcome to the forum. I am presuming your friend is a witness as well as the mother.
JWs will disfellowship any baptised person who disagree with their faith and who show know repentance after being spoken to.
As far as doctrines go they are constantly changing them. As soon as something they say is proved wrong the leaders change it and all witnesses must conform to the new understanding or be disfellowshipped.
It is good you did some research about them. Many people are able to do that now especially with the power of the internet showing what they are really like.
If you want to keep her as a friend you will have to keep most of your thoughts to yourself, because witnesses do not like any critisism of their organisation.
Good luck
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news from the jw's in haiti
by highdose inthis is an email going round the jw's, contains several accounts.
here are some new reports that i received today about our brothers in haiti.
for those unfamiliar with the geography of the area, haiti shares the island with the dominican republic which is referred to as "dr" in the report.
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alanv
Unbelievable. The indoctrination process continues even during a massive disaster. While their having a Watchtower study people are dying around them. Surely their time could be spent helping those in real trouble and go back to Watchtower studies after all has been done. Praying will do know good at all. The witnesses are not being protected from this calamity just as no one else is. All have to pull together and each one must do their utmost to help at this particular time.
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New 'Generation' light? Its just the "Governing body being the Governing Body"
by dissed inwe used to have a nutcase of a friend in the jw's who was always saying 'off the wall' things.
he was exasgerating interpretations, making idle threats that he would 'bump off' a jw if they do him wrong.
nobody took him seriously, because he said these wacko things all the time and never did them.
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alanv
No I am sure they have no remorse or regrets. The gov. body are totally convinced in their own mind that God reveals things gradually. Most witnesses will just accept the 'new light'. And the thread title is spot on. This is what they do. As soon as something is proved wrong they change it for something else.
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alanv
About a week ago there was a video on youtube showing how wonderful JWs were at dealing with emergencies. I find it sickening how they have to brag about what they do. All other agencies just get on with the work in hand but JWs have to show off abou it.
Look out for bragging articles in the magazines and probably in the 2011 yearbook next year.
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Searching for a WT quote about skills needed post armageddon
by boyzone inanyone remember a watchtower study about the skills brothers would need after amageddon?
i vaguely remember it but i've scoured the cdrom and can't find it.
somethng about being gardeners, carpenters etc and how we need to develop those skills now.. anyone got any ideas where its from?
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alanv
I see that the WT is from 1952. I would be very surprised if the society encouraged anyone now to spend a few years getting a skill, ready for post Armageddon.
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Sure fire fast track route to the big DF...
by creativhoney inok so when i finally didnt care, i did attend a jc, but i wanted closure, deep down i actually wanted them to df me.
- has anyone else been in this scenario, and what did you say at your jc that ensured the right action was taken.. they asked me how i felt about my relationship with jehovah - i simply said, i dont feel anything since i dont have one.
i dont pray, i dont study, and i dont show much interest.
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alanv
Good for you taking the plunge. I presume you wanted to tell them to there face why you wanted out.
For others who may not know, all you need to do is send the elders a letter stating you no longer wish to be a JW. You don't have to go through a judicial hearing if you don't want to. It would go down that you dissassociated yourself which is the same thing as far as the elders are concerned.
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Is The Internet The Worst Thing That Could Happen To The Organization?
by minimus inthe witnesses try to demonize the internet.
in your opinion is the internet the biggest problem for the watchtower organization?.
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alanv
I faded years ago when there was very little information around about JWs. Nowdays it really is easy for anyone to check out if the are being told the whole truth by the WT.
The internet is almost totally responsable for the low increase in numbers and the many tens of thousnds who leave each year.
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the bible, not for the frail hearted
by DaCheech inmy mom told me this the other day (she was born catholic, and converted to jwism in the late 30's):.
when she was a late teen she asked this question to her catholic priest uncle: "why doesn't the catholic church encourage us to read the bible"..... the man told my mom "if the general public read the bible they would be terrorized by scandalous stuff that only the clergy can sift through".. instead of taking this answer and leaving it alone, it started her quest to find the truth, and what religion would teach the bible.. as we know, i, through her came in this wreatched religion that hides behind the bible to scam us.
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alanv
Interestingly the WT do not encourage anyone to read the bible without WT publications. Try asking your mum if it is good to read the bible itself. If she is honest she will quote the society when they said if you read the bible by itself you will never come to an acurate knowledge of the truth.
So not very different to the Catholics