Spade To put it in a nutshell. Any group that regularly make themselves out to be much better than the average, is going to get slated when their religion produces the same problem people as say any other religion. If they said that they have exactly the same problems as others and that they are no better or worse, then no one would have a go at them. Quite simple really.
Posts by alanv
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Jehovah's Witnesses and the Media
by Spade inhttp://www.watchtower21.org/2011/01/jehovahs-witnesses-and-media.html.
at times, jehovah's witnesses are mentioned in the media in connection with a violent crime.
people shouldn't always believe everything they read--especially, it seems, on the internet.
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Is this Loaded Language in the 2011 Calendar?
by maninthemiddle ini think it could be fair to say, that if paul spoke for jesus, then "revealed truth" could be a valid description since the scriptures say he visited them several times, but i think the loaded language comes in when you try to apply this to modern times, (wts a modern paul?).
i see this as trying to mold the first century to fit the current wts/jws.
what do you think?.
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alanv
They really are very crafty. They have the 'brothers' going in twos (just like most of them do now) and they have bags with scrolls in, which will immediately get the JW to think 'yes we do that but with the bible and magazines.'
They are desperate to try and show how alike they are with the early christians.
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Your advice is requested
by mrsjones5 inok, last night my oldest son's friend was over again.
he comes up to me and says that he's feeling alot of pressure from his mom and the congregation (my mother's .
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alanv
Although a Uni education can be good, certainly here in the UK there are many graduates that are finding it hard to get a job. (Sorry for sounding like a Watchtower article.)
The truth is you can actually make a very good loving by being trained as an electrician or plummer etc. If I'm honest both my sons could have got better paid if they had followed the skilled manual jobs route rather than gone to Uni.
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Another hammer blow for the WTS from the Internet
by besty inlatest pew research reveals that 18-29 year olds now use the internet as their primary source of news.
interesting correlation between education and primary news source as well.. http://people-press.org/report/689/.
the national survey by the pew research center for the people & the press, conducted dec. 1-5, 2010 among 1,500 adults reached on cell phones and landlines, finds that more people continue to cite the internet than newspapers as their main source of news, reflecting both the growth of the internet, and the gradual decline in newspaper readership (from 34% in 2007 to 31% now).
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alanv
Gerard You are right but I would say it won't be long before they catch us up or at least get more reliable and widespread internet access.
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Another hammer blow for the WTS from the Internet
by besty inlatest pew research reveals that 18-29 year olds now use the internet as their primary source of news.
interesting correlation between education and primary news source as well.. http://people-press.org/report/689/.
the national survey by the pew research center for the people & the press, conducted dec. 1-5, 2010 among 1,500 adults reached on cell phones and landlines, finds that more people continue to cite the internet than newspapers as their main source of news, reflecting both the growth of the internet, and the gradual decline in newspaper readership (from 34% in 2007 to 31% now).
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alanv
Thanks for that besty. I really am not surprised by that. I guess most youngsters when they log on to the internet go to the home page first, and that is where the links to the news can be found. I have retired now and still use the TV for news although I certainly use the internet as well
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Favorite Quotes
by t33ap80c ini got the following quote from ros over at beacon.... "you cannot change someone's mind by proving that they are wrong.".
don cameron.
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alanv
I thnik that is spot on.
I and others, constantly show JWs where they are wrong on different forums, and it does not seem to make a lot of difference. Unless they perceive that you have something better to offer, they are not interested. I guess we all need to get a bit smarter in what we say to them.
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It Is WRONG To Make Threads About What The Watchtower Is Doing If You Do Not Have Facts To Back It Up!!!
by minimus ini think we should not make statements about what the watchtower society is secretly doing if we can not substantiate the statements.. we do not know if a "bethelite" is doing whatever he claims to be doing clandestinely.
when we make threads or statements about things we have absolutely no proof of, we are making ourselves look bad.. when impressionable people read these things, it sets our efforts back immensely.. please think about what you're doing.
it's counter-productive!.
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alanv
Totally agree Minmus. I regularly post on JW forums and find it is essential to be able to back up what I say.
Even when you show a scan of a gov body letter the dubs try and say it is a forgery. I find it very helpful to have the Watchtower cd rom as you can show exactly what the society say about something, and they can accept that a lot easier (even though they don't like it.
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I'm not sure how long I can stay married to the Witnesses
by wifeofjw ini don't post often, but i lurk a lot.
i have fonund the information to be helpful and encouraging.. however, i'm not sure how much longer i can take being married to the jw's.. i have a wonderful husband, but he believes everything this cult tells him.
most recently he has decided that because the end is near we don't have to worry about our bills.
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alanv
Hi wifeofjw,
I do really feel for you. It is hard when one is in and the othew out. I was wondering whether you both need to work to stay solvent. If you don't, then as the bread winner you are in the best position to see where the money goes.
There are many articles the Watchtower have written over the years telling the witnesses the end is near and they should pioneer or not marry or not have children.
Many of those who took that advice have suffered very much and certainly the ons who got into debt because they believed the societies lies.
If you both need to work, why don't you pay the bills and then your husband would have to pay for other essentials.
I was lucky. Although I was married to a witness, I was the bread winner so decided what the money should go.
I really hope you can sort this out, you really need to be strong, because you must remember that your husband is a victim in all this. He simply has not seen that he is in a cult. Hopefully he soon will come to his senses.
I wish you well.
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[JPEG] Memorial Partakers Worldwide: 11,202
by possible-san inthis is a scanned picture from the japanese version "2011 yearbook of jehovahs witnesses.".
http://ameblo.jp/musa-sabi/entry-10750966469.html.
2010 grand totals:.
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alanv
Thanks for the figures but how about a scan of the whole 2010 report. Surely someone has it by now
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[JPEG] Memorial Partakers Worldwide: 11,202
by possible-san inthis is a scanned picture from the japanese version "2011 yearbook of jehovahs witnesses.".
http://ameblo.jp/musa-sabi/entry-10750966469.html.
2010 grand totals:.
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alanv
Thanks for the figures but how about a scan of the whole 2010 report. Surely someone has it by now