How on earth do you get hold of the September Kingdom Ministry in July. I would expect August but not September. You must have friends in high places!
Posts by alanv
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21New arrangement
by DagothUr ini don't know if anyone has already posted this since i was in corfu island in the last 2 weeks.
it's from the jwn forum:.
september 2011 km says, "publishers auxiliary pioneering during march 2012 will have the option of working toward a 30-hour or a 50-hour requirement for the month.
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Selling literature on ebay? Good, bad or ugly?
by itsibitsybrainbutbigenoughtosmellarat inmany of you are collectors of the older literature especially.
i have been involved for 50 years with wtb&ts and have 4 generations prior to me involved.
i started collecting the literature and releases log ago and always viewed it as a hobby.
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alanv
I don't think the society would be bothered with someone just having old literature. I imagine there must be loads of older books still in their library at Bethel
They would only become interested if someone was harping back to old ideas the society had years ago. If the individual started telling other witnesses about it, they would be accused of causing divisions. Then if they carried on doing it they would be disfellowshipped for going against 'God's organisation'
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Help Please. Mother says she can prove I will die using the bible alone, no WT literature
by scooterspank inshe says she can prove i will die if i'm not in the "truth" strictly using the bible .
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alanv
Anyone who knows their bible can make it agree with anything you want it to say.
It can say all good people will go to heaven, or good people will live on earth. It can say God is a trinity or God is not a trinity.
There is a literal hellfire or not a literal hellfire.
We live in the last days or we don't live in the last days.
The bible has many contradictions or the bible does not have contradictions.
Anyway you get the idea.
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When do you think the org reached peak numbers?
by Mickey mouse ini'm talking real numbers here, not the stuff they publish which is skewed by allowing people to count 15 minutes/both parents counting study time with children.
when did they reach their peak publishers?.
my guess would be the early 2000's.
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alanv
I think it is very true that the society will never again see the increases of the 1970s. The internet has made sure of that by informing all new ones what to expect when they join and if they want to leave.
However the society is still increasing in numbers, which can be seen in the baptism figures which were up on the previous year by around 6%.
But many of those new ones leave, so the actual increase hovers around 2-3%.
Certainly it seems to take a lot more hours to convert one person to baptism than it used to.
Lots of good stuff at the JWfacts site.
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Watchtower Puzzle Spirit-Directed vs Inspired
by FatFreek 2005 inwatchtower puzzle spirit-directed vs inspired.
scan your bible and you probably won't find the term spirit-directed.
i searched for that term online and could not find a dictionary that defines it.
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alanv
I believe that when they say the governing body is spirit directed, it simply means that they (supposedly) base all they say on the bible that was written by inspired men. That's how they can say it is spirit directed. It is also the reason that they make so many errors, because if they interprate something wrong, it just means they are relying more on their own understanding rather than using the bible to decide something.
It would be interesting to ask them if they feel anyone else could be spirit directed!
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Remaining Steadfast When Grandparents Shun
by Bangalore inremaining steadfast when grandparents shun.. http://jehovahswitnessrevealed.com/2007/jehovahs-witness-shunning.
bangalore.
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alanv
The story certainly shows the cruel side of the JW religion, and especially how members are programmed to do whatever the society ask.
Unfortunately, many times the article it speaks about members having to sell books.
Now we now know that they do not sell books. Most times literature is taken and offered to a householder, and if they respond they may be asked if they would like to donate. However most times these days , the witness takes care of the expense, so it is wrong to say members sell books or magazines.
The article would have been good to show a witness had it not been for that. As it is because of the false statement about selling, no witness would listen or learn from it. When speaking to witnesses you need to have every fact correct, if not they will jump on it and reject all the other true points that have been made.
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viewing porn makes you demonised!
by highdose inor so claims every jw i've ever met.
porn also makes you turn into a sexual deviant who is likely to become a homosexual, rapist or peadofile.. .
porn has specail powers that once viewed allows the demons to get into your mind and start controling it!!.
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alanv
Broken promises said
Since they're making the claims, they should be able to back them up with facts.
Don't you remember in the Jan 1942 edition of the Watchtower there was a case of a man who viewed porn in a magazine, being possessed by a demon and through himself off a cliff. lol
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JW's are so hot on their views being respected but they do not respect anyone elses!
by highdose injw's face a tide of "no"s and "not interested"s everytime they go banging on the doors, surely it would have occurred to them by now that the vast majority of the public don't want to know and don't want them at their doors.
but do they acknowledge or listen to this?
regardless of wether they have priviously been told not to call or not still they come.. they claim that its because jesus has comanded them to do so.
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alanv
In my are there are signs saying no cold calling. In other words you don't call on someone without an invitation. Unfortunately I'm told it does not apply to religious callers
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"this system is in such a financial crisis now! You can see the time is ripe for the end to come!"
by highdose inso said a jw to me recently.
they claimed that:.
1)never before in the history of the world has there been another financial crisis like this!.
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alanv
I quite often go onto the JW topix website. Absolutely after any catastrohe the JWs are jumpling up and down saying the end is near. They make up their own rules about Jesus sign. Anything negative and the big A is imminent
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Australia: Victorian Child Protection Inquiry Hears Evidence Against Watch Tower Society
by AndersonsInfo inthe following information was taken from steven unthank's facebook page:.
http://www.facebook.com/notes/jw-news/news-release-victorian-child-protection-inquiry-hears-evidence-against-watch-tow/208372889198519.
news release: victorian child protection inquiry hears evidence against watch tower society .
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alanv
Broken promises. I presume you understand that some people know more about a subject than others. Barbera and some others on this site have worked very closely with the governing body in the past. Will they be better informed than someone who just reads about it? Of course they will.
In any facet of life, there are ones who know the subject better than the ordinary man in the street. So nothing whatsoever to do with a heirarchy, just common sense to pay attention to someone who has a lot more experience on the subject than us. (been there got the teashirt!)