If you leave the org and say nothing to anyone about why you left you will probably not be shunned. But once witnesses ask you why you no longer attend meetings and you then procceed to tell them, you will be shunned by those witnesses after that. And if you actually dare to start the converstion as to why you left, then you will be shunned by all witnesses that know you have done that.
Posts by alanv
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38FAQ - from the official web site "Do You Shun Former Members of Your Religion"?
by therevealer inthose who were baptized as jehovah's witnesses but no longer preach to others, perhaps even drifting away from association with fellow believers, are not shunned.
in fact, we reach out to them and try to rekindle their spiritual interest..
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Circuit Overseer sign up sheet
by A question ineveryone knows that people sign up to have the co over for lunch wed. through fri. but in your area, did they (even privately, outside of a sign up sheet) also invite him over sometimes for dinner as well, at all?
is this something that varies by co?.
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alanv
What does it matter if and when he accepts an invitation out for a meal. It is up to him. Nothing is written in stone. He can go out to Macdonald's every day if he wants to and pays for it himself.
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My daughter asked to be an unbaptized publisher. What do I do?
by Indian Larry inbrief background:.
i am a 3rd gen witness.
several of her friends are already baptized.
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alanv
Larry, the point about the baptism second question, is that you are agreeing to work with and follow the organisation. If you then go against what you have agreed to do in front of hundreds of people, then you are clearly going against your agreement. It does not have to stand up in law, just within the org. They can say that you agreed to work along with the org at your baptism, and now you are not doing that. Therefore you have showed us by your actions that you are no longer one of Jehovah's Witnesses. Shunning could well then be the next step, as many have found out to their cost.
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My daughter asked to be an unbaptized publisher. What do I do?
by Indian Larry inbrief background:.
i am a 3rd gen witness.
several of her friends are already baptized.
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alanv
When I was a teen I was a reg pioneer and a mini servant. I was told that college was a complete waste of time as this system was almost done. Everything I told the folks on the door about what God was about to do was untrue. Hundreds of hours talking to people and every word I said was false. She needs to research the organisation independantly from the org. She knows what they tell her but I doubt she has spoken or read anything by ex witnesses. If she is truly inteligent she will not fall for all the rubbish they tell her. I really hope she does not make that first step into being a publisher, if she does you could lose her to them.
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Another Lie/Revisionist History in todays WT study!!
by BU2B ini caught yet another revisionist history deception in todays wt lesson.. .
here is a quote from paragraph 4 of the 2/15/13 study edition.
"decades before 1914, jehovah's worshippers declared to the nations that the end of "the appointed times of the nations" would come in that year and that the world would enter into an unequaled period of trouble.".
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alanv
The point is Russell and his cronies felt this was the time of trouble that would lead to Armaggeddon. It did not. It had nothing to do with God taking action against the nations. It just turned out to be an extra large war. If it had been God's war, all nations would have ended in destruction, as it was, many nations were not part of the world war, and most of them lived to fight another day. This was not what Russell expected and spoke of at all.
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July 2013 Watchtower "Should You Trust Religion?"
by ilikecheese ini read this article while i was looking at the other magazine you guys were talking about.
they were being really stupid and generalizing about the other religions they were talking about again.
my favorite bit was where someone was saying that they went to a church that passed the offering plate around three times and that they were expected to put money in it each time.
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alanv
Like everything in JW land you only ever here half the story. Of course there are some churches that are money crazy, but many others who are totally spiritual and unmaterialstic.
Just like there are some Kingdom Halls that talk more about money than others. Dont forget as well that JWs have several different contribution boxes that you are asked to contribute to if you can. Even providing cash machines at some assemblies apparantly.
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ROLF HARRIS - Sex abuse arrest 19/4/13
by *lost* inanother one - as a result of the jimmy saville abuse cover-up.
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alanv
We dont know too many details yet, but I really hope he was nothing like Jimmy Saville.
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Watchtower encourages children to shun DF parents.
by Azazel inhey guys just wondering if anyone can recall a recent watchtower ( maybe a year ago ) that had an article aimed at minor children on dealing with a disfellowshipped parent.
ive had a dive thru jw.org but coudnt find it before i wanted to vomit.
can anyone help recall what issue it was.
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alanv
Try this article by Brenda Lee
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End of the world prophecy - Why pertinent to now? Nothing will happen, I assure you!
by punkofnice inplease let me rant then i'll go back and read my spider-man comics.. why do those that promote end of time prophecy have to make it all current?.
i guess if we were told at the book of revelation for eg, (whatever chapter and verse), is for 3,000 years time i'd be surprised......and there's no money in it.
believers would be discouraged methinks.. it seems to me that all this apocalypse now stuff is just to give our turgid lives excitement.
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alanv
Totally agree. I get so pissed off when every generation of so called christians look round the world and say how terrible conditions are and that it shows we are in the last days. Guys we have never had it so good. Of course there are still problems that need sorting out but generally many, many people are far better off than they were a generation ago. End of my rant as well
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"The Truth That Leads To Eternal Life" book
by smiddy inif i remember correctly there were more than 100 million books distributed around the world in the the 1960`s.. and if i remember correctly it was listed amongst the ten most distributed/published books by the guiness book of records .. and if i`m not mistaken "paradise lost to paradise regained" was also on this list.
and even in one year about that time their were no less than four of the societys publications on the 10 most distributed books ever.
at that time.. how much of what was printed in those publications then, is relevant to what is beleived today.
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alanv
The whole reason the book came out was because there was no time any more to go through bigger books. It was small and concise, and witnesses were told to stop studying with anyone who had not made any significant progress after 6 months. Much of the book dealt with the 'proofs' that we were living at the very end of the last days. So did the book proove true? No it was totally false. So much so that the society had to change the wording of some quotes, because they too proved to be false. A complete work of fiction.