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  Interesting talk with an uber dub relative today

  by joe134cd in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my relative asked me a question today of why half the witnesses in this country had to travel to the opposite end of the country to attend a convention, when in some areas it would of been closer to attend a convention that was only 3.5 hours up the road.

  i replied by saying the society could be getting some sort of benefits if they can prove they can bring x amount of dollars into the city.

  she replied by saying they would never do that.

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  alanv

  Haha got to laugh when you say just three and a half hours up the road. I take it you are not in the UK where two hour travelling would be quite enough
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  Seriously considering stepping down as Elder

  by fader77 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i have been an elder for 6 years.

  it's been the last 2 years or so that i've really seen the hypocrisy, but the ability to know the shenanigans of the society through the body of elders letters has kind of kept me in there.

  i'm to the point now that i can't stand the hatred and bitterness that the body of elders has towards myself and my whole family.

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  alanv

  I stepped down from being a mini servant because I could see the next step would be for me to become an elder and like fader I just knew there was so much wrong in the org. In time I was able to fade and so was able to keep in touch with my JW family members. Best decision I ever made.
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  Our Kingdom Ministry September 2014 PDF

  by WatchTower87 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  our kingdom ministry september 2014 pdf.

  instruction: press the 'skip ad' button top right, you should then see the download screen more easily.

  no virus ;-).

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  alanv

  Wow the governing body are getting desperate. Just looked at the increase in regular pioneers and while the usa is quite impressive the high percentage increases in the smaller countries actually equates to most of them being under 10 extra people from each of those lands. Certainly nothing to shout about when you think there are 8 million JWs worldwide.
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  BBC Radio 4 reference to 607 Babylonian conquest?

  by 88JM in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  was listening to bbc radio 4 late sunday night, and in a programme about migration, they referenced the "babylonian conquest of jerusalem in 607 b.c.

  " which caught my attention.. did they not mean 587 b.c., or did i understand it wrong?.

  the link to the programme is below - sorry if you're not in the u.k. as you probably won't be able to listen to bbc programmes.

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  alanv

  I have written to them as well. Thanks for the info.
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  What has the WTS EVER "predicted" that has actually come true?

  by integ in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  you'd think they could point to something right?

  obviously we're the one true religion".. i can't fathom how anyone of any intelligence would be willing to join up with this org after doing even rudimentary research.. for years they have taught that it's wrong to seek advanced education or to plan for a "worldly" future by trusting in this system of things and then this past sunday the watchtower article rips on people for not planning for the future in regard to their elderly relatives.

  maybe if they hadn't been teaching for 100 yr's that the end was "just around the corner" and telling us we'd better believe that fact...or else, we would have planned better for a future that you said without reservation would not even occur.. what mind blowing prediction can they point to that would convince someone "oh yeah..these guys have it right"...?.

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  alanv

  I used to be amazed at the way the 607 BCE doctrine ended with 1914 and the outbreak of world war one but see now that it was a wrong date they used. Also they said they predicted the rise of the United Nations but again that imformation was known by many not just the JWs.
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  some changes need to be made

  by venting in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  but im still in and on the fence.

  " remember who owns the fence?".

  shunning needs to be tempered.

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  alanv

  Really dont know why you are on the fence venting, as clearly you can see how wrong the religion is. I was shunned yesterday by an elders wife, even though I have just faded because I disagreed with some of their doctrines.
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  CANDACE CONTI

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i was disappointed to find that there is not a page on wikipedia dedicated to candace conti.. in view of the massive import of the case, and the expected lies/deceptions/minimal info being prepared by the org as "damage limitation" - should they lose the appeal - couldn't someone with the know-how compile a wiki page for the benefit of witnesses to view as a truthful and authoritative source of facts and information?.

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  alanv

  I know what you mean, but you must remember that although this is a big thing in the JW world it is not big news for most people on a worldwide scale.

  99% of the world could not care less about JWs and anything that goes on around them.
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  Millions Now Living Have Never Lived So Well

  by Bob_NC in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  that's right, millions now living are living during the best of times for humanity.

  but aren't these critical times hard to deal with?

  aren't these the last days of a dying wicked system of things.

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  alanv

  http://thinkprogress.org/security/2013/12/11/3036671/2013-certainly-year-human-history/

  http://www.rd.com/health/healthy-eating/cheer-up-17-reasons-its-a-great-time-to-be-alive/

  Two excellent articles showing how we are living in the best time in human history
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  Obey Even If It Doesn't Sound Reasonable ...Even if it kills you!

  by clarity in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoiyyeuscfu.

  most on here, have read about the disaster in the phillipines,.

  where 30 + jw's were killed ...mostly sitting in their kingdom hall!.

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  alanv

  Why on earth would you think that Watchtower want to lose members? They are simply amateurs when it comes to this type of thing. The individual witnesses are so conditioned that Jehovah will save them, that they went to the kingdom Hall.

  No question the video is to impress other witnesses around the world, and is real propagander.
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  What the world is coming too?? Interesting news in local paper.

  by jam in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  first article, hawaii law lets police have sex with prostitutes.

  honolulu police officers are urging lawmakers to keep an exemption.

  in the stste law that lets undercover officers have sex with prostitutes.

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  alanv

  Sounds like you are falling into the JW trap of finding something local wrong and deciding the whole world acts like that. And they do not.