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  Australian Total Publishers for 2016 Compared to 2015?

  by awake!watcher in

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  does anyone know what the publisher totals were for 2015 compared to 2016 for australia?

  i can't find them anywhere and was wondering if the royal commission hearing had any effect on the numbers.

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  alanv

  Just go to jwfacts.com for a complete report on all the service reports going back many years. The actual average publishers for Australia in 2015 was 66753, and for 2016 was 66689, so a loss of 64. Baptisms were 1235 so even if you allow 1% for deaths, they lost a lot of people last year
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  The carts or trolleys are going to be around for a long time yet

  by pepperheart in

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  2. beliefs

  i say that because it works for both the people doing field service and the watchtower.

  for the people its easier standing than having to walk and you can have a chat with other jws as well.

  for the watchtower they tell the drones that the general public must make the first move(to stop the general public complaining about being pestered) but in doing so it means that they are not giving many magazines etc away but that suits the watchtower because magazines and even single page trats cost money and that seems to be one thing that the watchtower dont have .

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  alanv

  Yes I think you right pepperheart. What could be better for a JW in the spring, summer and autumn to be sitting on a bench next to a cart and have a good catch up with your friend, and at the same time count time.
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  Are people free to leaving the Witnesses, and shunning.

  by ThomasCovenant in

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  2. beliefs

  is it true, as bro jackson testified to the australian royal commission, that people can leave the religion freely?.

  in my own case, yes.

  i just stopped going and was never announced as ''no longer one of jw's''.

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  alanv

  I never thought about relocating. I would never do that just to get rid of a few idiots. If they dont want to talk to me thats their loss. I have a great life after fading.
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  Are people free to leaving the Witnesses, and shunning.

  by ThomasCovenant in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  is it true, as bro jackson testified to the australian royal commission, that people can leave the religion freely?.

  in my own case, yes.

  i just stopped going and was never announced as ''no longer one of jw's''.

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  alanv

  Hi Yesu, good for you for never taking that lethal step. However many JWs will still shun you, as from their point of view you had the truth and you rejected it, so they now will reject you. Very sad.
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  Are people free to leaving the Witnesses, and shunning.

  by ThomasCovenant in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  is it true, as bro jackson testified to the australian royal commission, that people can leave the religion freely?.

  in my own case, yes.

  i just stopped going and was never announced as ''no longer one of jw's''.

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  alanv

  Afrikanman,

  if you were baptised after the new 1985 baptism questions, you agreed to work with the organisation. All they have to do is ask you if you believe Jehovah is using the gov body as his channel. If you say no, you are in effect dissasociating yourself. At least that is how they will view it.
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  Born in baptisms to avoid embarrassment

  by Spoletta in

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  i noticed a recent commenter mention an assembly that had only one baptism, a born in.

  the last assembly i went to had three baptisms, of which two were born ins.

  could part of the motivation for youth baptism be to avoid the embarrassment of an assembly with no baptisms at all?

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  alanv

  Its great looking at the figures on JW facts. Every year the org report more bible studies worldwide, but the actual ones getting baptised is at the same level as it was 40 years ago lol
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  Are people free to leaving the Witnesses, and shunning.

  by ThomasCovenant in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  is it true, as bro jackson testified to the australian royal commission, that people can leave the religion freely?.

  in my own case, yes.

  i just stopped going and was never announced as ''no longer one of jw's''.

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  alanv

  I simply faded as well, but when my JW friends asked me why I had left, instead of simply saying well thats fine you are allowed your own view on this, they simply shunned me. That was 20 years ago, and they still do it.
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  JW.Org claims they have fullfilled Jesus command to preach in all the inhabited earth.Have they really done that ? I dont think so.

  by smiddy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  apart from the fact that they have mainly followed in the footsteps of christendom before them what virgin territories have they ever gone to that christendom before them has not gone to .

  i would think none.. how many lands ,countrys ,are their that they have never made any significant inroads into ?.

  we are not talking about token service in any of these countrys in major cities , but a real door to door witness to every individual householder that gets it every few months as in western lands.. some that i can think of : north korea ,mainland china , bangladesh ,india , pakistan , jordan , israel , iran , syria ,burma ( sorry cant think of the new name ).

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  alanv

  Nearly everything they say, you will find an opposite statement somewhere in their literature. That way whatever happens they can say it was right what they wrote.

  The above is one example and another one, is where they say how bad the world is getting with more wars and violence, then somewhere else they will say the bible says there will be a cry of peace and security before the end.
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  Who is a real friend?

  by googleTTATT in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm asking this because when i was a jehovah's witness, i thought i had real friends..

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  alanv

  They most certainly are not true friends. True friends would always allow you to think for yourself and understand you wont agree on everything. As soon as any JW decides to leave the organisation, they are cut off immediately by their former ''good friends''
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  Dont worry folk the watchtower dont think the end of the world will be any time soon

  by pepperheart in

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  re the chairs for 1000s video if the watchtower thought the end of the world was so close why did they have people spend 1000s of hours messing with chairs when they could have been doing field service????

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  alanv

  They even have an answer to that charge. They say they dont know exactly when God will intervene, so they just carry on as normal.