I sent mine Friday, with delivery confirmation.
Recieved mine a couple of weeks ago, but still waiting until Christmas to open it!
i'm worried because i sent a christmas card plus had a gift sent by ups over the internet about 7 days ago and haven't heard anything.
i would feel really feel bad if my person didin't receive their gift or card.
so i think we need to have an official post place.
I sent mine Friday, with delivery confirmation.
Recieved mine a couple of weeks ago, but still waiting until Christmas to open it!
my friend (not baptized jw yet, but heading that direction) is having a birthday soon.
i received my last birthday card from her about two years ago.
i miss them too, because i don't have a lot of family left, and most of them don't even know when my birthday is!.
Strangest thing:
I've never had a birthday party of my own, but I've been to quite a few others. I have never seen anyone get their head cut off. Infact, I've not met anyone who ever mentioned such a thing happening at any that they had been to either!
Closest thing, was when a Spanish kid hit a pinata and a bunch of candy spilled out. And pinning the tail on the donkey! But that was about as deviate as it ever got.
my friend (not baptized jw yet, but heading that direction) is having a birthday soon.
i received my last birthday card from her about two years ago.
i miss them too, because i don't have a lot of family left, and most of them don't even know when my birthday is!.
Alwayshere:
Wow. I sure hope she never gets baptized. What about all of her family that are not JWs? She is the only one who has been studying with them.
Her family is meeting up for a vacation with her parents over Christmas. I'm hoping her Mom has some deprogramming plans, but she hasn't said anything to me about it.
my friend (not baptized jw yet, but heading that direction) is having a birthday soon.
i received my last birthday card from her about two years ago.
i miss them too, because i don't have a lot of family left, and most of them don't even know when my birthday is!.
Hi, avid.!
Welcome to the forum.
I'm really not afraid, and I don't think you know it, but I'm not, nor have I ever been, a JW. I agree with most everything you said, however, my JW buddy might feel very differently. Like a birthday card is an attempt by Satan to stumble her somehow. I don't want her to go back to her JW friends and be convinced that she should shut me out as a bad associate, because I sent her a birthday card. Inspite of all the JW "stuff", we are still very close friends.
I am hoping that people who have actually been in the JWs and received a birthday card, will clue me in as to what might be going on in her mind from that perspective.
I think I'll do the friendship card idea. Let her know that I'm thinking of her and let it go at that. I'd really like to do what we used to in the old times: treat her for lunch, get a small gift, etc....but I'm pretty sure that is a no-no.
Thanks for all the suggestions!
my friend (not baptized jw yet, but heading that direction) is having a birthday soon.
i received my last birthday card from her about two years ago.
i miss them too, because i don't have a lot of family left, and most of them don't even know when my birthday is!.
My friend (not baptized JW yet, but heading that direction) is having a birthday soon. I received my last birthday card from her about two years ago. I miss them too, because I don't have a lot of family left, and most of them don't even know when my birthday is!
Anyway, I want to send her a card for her birthday. I did last year, and she mentioned the card, which was a biblical card that had the verse about how a friend is closer than a brother. I tried to find one that she couldn't find fault with. She acknowledged the card, and started to say something more, but stopped herself.
Would it be best to NOT send a card? I don't want to lose a friendship or have her think I am disrespecting her by sending one, however she hasn't told me NOT to. The only thing she has ever done was told me that she didn't want to exchange gifts any more, because ....well, you know all the reasons. It led to an interesting conversation. It really shows me the powerful mind control they have over her, because she's the girl who would mend fences right before holidays, because she wanted to exchange those gifts!
What should I do? If someone sent you a card when you were in the JWs for your birthday, how did you feel about it? Did it irritate you? Did it make you feel good that someone thought of you? Did it make you angry with the sender? What should I expect? And if she gets upset about it, what is a good way to react? I want to prepare, so that I don't get ticked and get snooty about it.
(I sent a Christmas card, and that went over without a hitch. She never said anything about it.)
Thanks for any advice you have!
i want to thank everyone here for all the help and kind words offered to me as i adjust to having worth.
i guess i have a long way to go and i guess i'm going to have to go and see a counselor like someone else suggested.. no matter how hard i work or what i accomplish, i still feel so ugly and i'm still afraid of the stupidest things.
i don't know if my fears are on par with paranoia, but they are definitely distracting and i need to get some outside assistance.. the good news is that around here, with people who've gone through the same, i feel better.
Penny2 and Abandoned sittin' in a tree,
K-i-s-s-i-n-g......
Just kidding! But you really never know! Could be a long-distance love connection. I wonder how many people have met here and ended up in a long term relationship? Marriage?
That may be a good topic!
Abandoned,
You are not ugly! I've witnessed ugly many times, and YOU are NOT it!
BTW: When you look into counseling, it might be a big help to try and find someone who is familiar with mind control groups and their methods.
now this could be fun.
We have received "new light". The Word is: there is no possible way those who have died in the past could be part of the 144,000. It makes no sense whatsoever for people who have participated in pagan activities that are now condemned by the WTS (such as believing Jesus died on a cross, celebrating holidays, receiving blood transfusions, smoking, etc...) to be considered worthy of being in the presence of Jehovah or in a position of authority.
The "new light" and the reasonable conclusion should be that the 144,000 are going to be picked from the very END times, because they are the ones with the purest beliefs. Only those with the purest beliefs and practices will be considered for heavenly status. Does it make sense that those who had such unpure beliefs would be acceptable to rule with Jehovah? Of course not!
Those previously thought to have been part of the 144,000 are actually just dead and waiting in the grave. They will have to be resurrected and taught along with those who didn't hear and respond to the call of the WTS. Afterall, they don't even know what the latest "new light" is! But won't that be a glorious day, when they finally learn all that they have missed.....blah, blah, blah.....
I've never been a JW, nor do I believe the 144,000 theory, but based on WTS materials I have read in which they "explain away" so much, this seems kind of along the lines of what they would print.
Nothing really gets any brighter, it just tend to smother out the old light and put a different "glow" on things.
Just my opinion.
i've recently had surgery and with all the expense and the time i am going to miss from work, my family and friends have agreed that we will exchange home-made items only this year.
i would love to make cookies for everyone.
the gorgeous cookie-cutter kind that you decorate.
Store bought dough?!!!!
You made my day! How thick do you usually roll it out before you cut them?
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during the xvii century, the archives increased considerably, especially under urban viii barberini (the bulls of sixtus iv and pius v; the papers of the briefs secretariat from alexander vi to pius v, the abundant documentation contained in the armaria xxxix-xlv; the books of the apostolic camera from avignon, where they had remained after the end of the scism; the papers of the council of trent), and under alexander vii, who chose to place the diplomatic correspondence of the secretariat of state on a specific floor of the vatican palaces.. .
are all catholics academics or something or am i just thick?.
I once was a Catholic. My Mom was not, however. My Dad's side of the family made it possible for me to attend private Catholic school for 2 years, after which my Mom put a stop to it, thank God! I learned precious little. Did all the meaningless rituals and learned the recited prayers. I wondered if God really wanted to hear these mindless prayers that I didn't even understand, or if He really wanted to hear what I had to say. Wouldn't He rather hear about real stuff? This was at the ripe age of 8 years old.
My husband has since been listening to Catholic talk radio on his commute from work. He comes in and tells me the most interesting things! "Did you know that you are going to burn in hell?" He informed me that if you are a Catholic, then leave the faith, you are damned for eternity. (Sound familiar?)
He informs me of all kinds of ridiculous beliefs they hold, which I, and most of the Catholics have known, have never heard of!
He was doing a search on the computer and found a comparison chart of Catholics and Jehovah's Witnesses. They have so many similarities, it is uncanny! It is a manipulative religious organization, geared at high control of it's members.
I've been reading the New Testament, and I have cicled every where it mentions Saducees, Pharisees, Elders, religious leaders of Jesus' day. Following every one of them so far, they are plotting to kill Jesus, they are angered by him, they are jealous, ....nothing positive. Always trying to trap or trick Jesus. No wonder Jesus was anti religion and pro relationship. He's been trying to release people from cults from day one. He really reemed the religious leaders!
Go, Jesus! :0)
i've recently had surgery and with all the expense and the time i am going to miss from work, my family and friends have agreed that we will exchange home-made items only this year.
i would love to make cookies for everyone.
the gorgeous cookie-cutter kind that you decorate.
I've recently had surgery and with all the expense and the time I am going to miss from work, my family and friends have agreed that we will exchange home-made items only this year.
I would love to make cookies for everyone. The gorgeous cookie-cutter kind that you decorate. Unfortunately, I have never had much of a knack for it. My shapes always end up looking like giant blobs, rather than the perfectly shaped snowmen and stars that you see in the magazines.
I've tried various recipes in the past, but they always bleed out of shape in the oven. I know I must be doing something wrong. Anyone have any tips?
I would love a fool proof recipe, if anyone would care to share their's.
Also, any other recipes for cookies or candy that are simple, suitable for a gift, and store well. Thanks for any advice!