I'm pissed today and I'm about to let it out. I hope nobody gets offended because these are only opinions. Is anyone else outraged by our President? Poor Clinton couldn't get away with an affair (not that it's right) but Bush gets away with literal genocide? Where was the evidence of weapons in Iraq? Iraq wasn't connected to the war on terror. It seems to me that in today's world bad-mouthing Bush is nearly equivalent to apostasy; you can't say anything negative about it because then you are suddenly on the terrorist's side. That is simply not the case and I can't believe ANYONE buys into that line of thinking. That is the kind of propaganda dictators and Jehovah's Witnesses use! I don't agree with what happened on 9/11, I don't agree with nationalism, religious or extremism views but I also don't agree with how our idiot president has handled the situation. Him and his goons have lied about everything that has happened since 9/11. American media DOSEN'T EVEN SHOW the murders, the hurt, the pain, the bloodshed of those poor people in Iraq. They don't show dead bodies of children that have been shredded by our bombs. It's intellectual dishonesty, they are turning a blind eye to the disgusting violence that is going on over there. If they had been showing what is really going on our troops would have been home already. It's pointless to fight a war where you don't even know the enemy. This can't be solved with guns or more troops, it HAS to be solved with diplomacy. With words. The people that hate America might have a reason to. Like our presidents haven't ever done another nation wrong? This isn't even our war anymore. When are we going to stop the insane bloodshed? I'm just a patriotic as the next guy, but I will not be patriotic when our leader acts like this. It's high time we impeach our president and charge him with the same crime Saddam was charged with.
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What has happened to America? Stop Bush, Stop The Ignorance.
by Morocco ini'm pissed today and i'm about to let it out.
i hope nobody gets offended because these are only opinions.
is anyone else outraged by our president?
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If there is no life after death
by onacruse inso where does that leave us?
leave me?.
the logical consequence would be that i should get absolutely every little piece of self-gratification i can get before i die.
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onacruse: Great topic by the way, just really great. I want to mention something no one else has, unless I didn't read everything. You are asking for some kind of reason for acting proper. The reason you do it is because society has made it difficult to act bad, so it's easy to do it the "right" way -- but why morally? What is the point? Maybe, if there is no God or afterlife this is the only life we have right? Then, in that case, it should be our desire -- no, our obligation to act right. If there is no afterlife then it is our responsibility to build THIS society into one that is not full of terrible things for the sake of our children and their children. By acting "right" you contribute to a greater cause : the betterment of future generations. Imagine if EVERYONE who didn't "act right" did "act right" or at least taught their children to a little better. Building a better future, a complete, relatively error free future, is no more impossible than an afterlife. If we could all teach our children, as a human culture, to put away violence (which again isn't anymore implausible than God saving us) it would be a much better place. Acting right isn't about yourself -- it's about your children. It's about love. Love for the future and what could be.
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THE BIBLE ADVOCATES GENOCIDE?
by steve2 inhave biblical apologists satisfactorily explained the blood-drenched biblical passages in which jehovah orders his people to wipe out every living soul - young, old, men, women, child, infirm - in the territory they're told to invade?.
who needs bin laden when you've got jehovah?
or is jehovah excused because he's truly mightier, like, because he's the creator he can call the shots, no matter how much and who's blood is shed?
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This is exactly what I'm having a serious problem with right now, no one can explain it except that some Christians might say that "well those people were evil anyways" which is just some evasive answer that basically means they don't know or can't explain it. Jehovah was a god of war, there was a book references in the Old Testament called the Book of the Wars of Jehovah. God had so many wars it filled a book? God told the Israelites to kill every living thing, including women, children, and animals. Hm, sounds more like Jehovah was some hate-filled human leader of those Israelites who had a serious vendetta against certain nations. Just look at the hate-filled and war torn middle eastern lands, that very same thing is still going on in Gods name, but no one Christian really believes it is God doing it... do they? But they sure as shoot believe in the Bible, including the Old Testament. Why should anyone believe in Moses, Abraham or anyone in the OT who spoke and performed atrocities in God's name when they don't believe it today when it happens right in front of their eyes by a contemporary group? Maybe one day all the religious killing and conflict in the middle east will be added to the Old Testament and it too will be God in action.
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What Do You Think About Jesus' Failed Prophecy?
by Morocco ini suppose im addressing the believers/agnostics more than the atheists on this one, but please, everyone feel free to comment.
so, it is apparent from the scriptures that jesus and his followers believed that the end of the world was coming in their own lifetime.
i tell you the truth, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened.
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I suppose I’m addressing the believers/agnostics more than the atheists on this one, but please, everyone feel free to comment.
So, it is apparent from the scriptures that Jesus and his followers believed that the end of the world was coming in their own lifetime.
I tell you the truth, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened. – (Matthew 24:34, Mark 13:30)
I suppose you could debate those scriptures like the Watchtower has – “this generation” is some future generation. But what about these :
Matthew 16:28
“I tell you the truth, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.”
Mark 9:1
“And he said to them, ‘I tell you the truth, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the kingdom of God come with power.’”
Luke 9:27
“I tell you the truth, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the kingdom of God.”
So “some standing here”, as in some listening to Jesus speaking, was in reference to people of that specific day (not day as in time, day as in 24 hour day). THOSE people, at THAT time. It was obvious that Jesus prophecy failed, unless he never made this prophecy which is a whole other can of worms and one which stinks just as bad. What does everything think about it? -
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"Jehovah Has Become King", video by Robert King
by frankiespeakin inis he trying to start his own mind control cult?
watch the video and judge.. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5267956386083735501&q=jehovah&hl=en.
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King was never trying to reconcile the flaws in the WTS and his need to believe. He has a grudge, a personal vendetta against the Tower. That's exactly why he condemns them but asks for monetary support. He wants to beat them at their own game; beat them at the psychological control of people using religion and shut them down. That's why he condemns them but uses the ship of theology they already built in attempt to do it.
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How often should the Lord's Supper be celebrated per year
by avidbiblereader ini have always had a problem with this from the scriptures, i understand the old law and replacing the passover but those laws did not apply to the new covenant and my question centers around pauls words to the 1 cor 11.
1 cor 11:17-20 .
17but, while giving these instructions, i do not commend you because it is, not for the better, but for the worse that you meet together.18for first of all, when you come together in a congregation, i hear divisions exist among you; and in some measure i believe it.19for there must also be sects among you, that the persons approved may also become manifest among you.
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That is definitely true. And I apologize for seeming rude. I think what I really mean is that, if you believe it is important as a Christian to observe the ritual then its very importance is somewhat nullified by the fact that the details of when and how to observe it are found incomplete. If it were really important the bible writers would have focused more on recording the information than passing it down orally.
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Where's God?
by Billzfan23 ini was baptised in a freewill baptist church about 15 years ago, and then i became a witness and was baptised about 11 years ago.
what my experience has taught me having delved deeply in both (served as a servant and later an elder in wts) is that i don't really believe that there is a god.
why won't he answer me?
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I agree with what Abandoned said. I can identify with your situation as I’ve been through the same emotions and movements. One thing I’ve learned from coming away from the Witnesses is never question yourself, always trust that you can see what is real and what is not. There is nothing wrong with you. Enjoy life based on what you know. You know God isn’t answering you, so why does he have to? Maybe that means there isn’t a God that makes replies and that the people who say he does are delusional. Enjoy life for what it is. You don’t need God to be happy. If you aren’t happy in THIS life, you won’t be happy in the next, if there is an afterlife and you happen to pass judgment. Since you can’t prove God is real, act as though this is your only shot a life and don’t waste it on constantly worrying about approval. If he is real, and it is important, he will contact you. It is something difficult to do, I know. I have personally come to face the fact that religions are a waste of time and religious thinking produces more negative things than positive. This has allowed me to enjoy life for what it is and take my own path to understanding our life here, which has been more fulfilling than I ever thought.
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WHY GOD CANNOT FORGIVE YOU
by Terry init is little understood by christians what a difference there is between themselves and judaism; especially on the matter of whom god forgives and why.. a christian expects to sin against many people in the course of their life, but; proudly boasts that they aren't "perfect just forgiven.
" this is wrong by judaism's ethical, moral and theologic standards.. let me explain why.. in judaism; only the person you sin against can forgive you!.
if you steal from bob; only bob (the injured party) can forgive you.
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Great topic! It makes absolute perfect sense.
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How do I have everlasting life?
by soulfinder inhere is a scripture that explains just that.. john 5:39-40.
39you are searching the scriptures, because you think that by means of them you will have everlasting life; and these are the very ones that bear witness about me.. 40and yet you do not want to come to me that you may have life.. jesus clearly explains that it is not through the scriptures that we have everlasting life.
it is only by going to him..
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I'm not asking if you're a capable Christian, what I'm asking is how do you know that Christianity and what it is based on is not controlled by the Devil? And, no offense, but you DO have all the answers -- since you know the creatures that do. Ask God to solve my question for me and get back to me when He responds to you. By the way, foretell my future and you can brag to God that you personally saved a lost soul. If you can see the future, why aren't you out saving peoples' lives instead of shooting pool and chatting online?
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Why animals die?
by EzroJP ini know why human beings die, but why animals die?.
did they commit anything wrong according to the laws of god, so they have to die?.
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Nathan Natas said something that hit me like a kick in the teeth : “The doctrine that the "wages of sin is death" fails upon close examination, doesn't it?” Holy crap. If animals die because they too sinned, then by that logic they are just as sentient and just as sacred as humans, speaking in the spiritual/soul level. So... if God has no qualms about mandatory, regular animal sacrifice, what does that say about his respect for his own creations – or us humans!?