They sell real estate because they can! And because they bought many premium properties when they were cheap (from today’s prices), they no doubt figured that after they improve the property (by using free JW-labor of course) they’ll make a killing (I'm not sure they are that smart, but gambled)! It’s all planned! I don’t believe they really believe in a God (or a higher power mightier than they are), other than the Almightily Dollar God! These terrible controllers of authority have NO values! And they have absolutely no concern for the small throng of supporters (that live from pay-check to pay-check) they rule over! It’s so sad! Very sad! :(
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What is the real reason behind the WTS' move out of Brooklyn?
by Lady Lee inthere have been several discussions about the wts and their selling off properties in brooklyn and moving headquarters out of nyc.
the best of... wts finances.
why the wts is selling their assets.
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WTS is a cult
by OnTheWayOut inwts is a cult.
this excerpt is from steven hassans book.
he says that there are four components.
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cyberguy
You're right, OnTheWayOut! It is a cult! Although Ray Franz didn't go as far in his books, I agree with you 100%, although not reading the book you reference!
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Who saw Borat?
by roflcopter inborat: cultural learnings of america for make benefit glorious nation of kazakhstan.
best freakin movie of the year in my opinion.
i laughed almost the whole entire 1.5hrs of playtime.
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see 1st 4 mins...
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If You Don't Believe In Jehovah's Organization You Can't Believe In Jehovah
by minimus inso said my brother to my mother the other day while she was in the hospital.
he asked her why i wasn't coming back to the "truth".
she suggested that i wanted to enjoy a worldly life of fun.
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Hey Min,
You should ask your family to show you the scriptural basis for their beliefs. Where does it say “Truth” = “God and his Organization?”
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Still Groggy: Double Agent's Blog #001 - "Pressure Building"
by StillGroggy in(copied from my blog) .
anyone who's seen my posts on jwd knows that im an active jw whos married in the religion.
i recently started leaning my "family study" with my wife to a more free-thinking, personal researching mode.
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StillGroggy,
Oh boy, your “family study” each week must be very interesting to say the least! Hehe!
Say, you did as well as can be expected given your brainwashed wife’s emotional response. However, one thing that I’ve had success with is asking basic questions about what JW’s actually believe about some topic. I’ve found that most of them cannot explain their most basic teachings! It is impossible to get somebody looking at WT doctrinal errors when the people don’t really know what is taught.
One example would be to review what JW’s really teach about 1914. A simple question would be, "According to WT, what did Jesus get in 1914 that he did not already have?" Then, wait for an answer. You’ll probably get a blank response. Then review some WT publication (like Require… p. 12, par 2, ) that states succinctly the WT teaching on the matter. At this point you have the person’s attention because this is a fundamental teaching that all JW’s should know, and they obviously don’t know it! Then read Matt. 28:18, 29, followed by a review Wt. July 1, 2004, p. 8, par. 3-4. Ask, “When did Jesus receive ALL authority?” WT says 1914, before then he only had a limited authority over his congregation according to WT (they cite Col. 1:13, see par. 4). Then ask, “When you read that account in Matt. 24, do you get the impression Jesus had to wait nearly 2000 years before actually getting ALL authority?” Also compare par. 4, and the sited scripture Eph. 1:20-23. Reason on the context, which clearly shows that “all government and all authority and power” was given upon his resurrection; once again, showing that Jesus did NOT have to wait. Finally, consider the information in the Insight Vol II, p. 61, under Jesus Christ, “The full significance of his ‘name’”. This article clearly contradicts the WT in showing when Jesus received ALL authority, namely upon his resurrection. “Which article has the correct understanding since both come from the “slave?””, you may then ask.
Anyway, this is just some friendly suggestions to try and jumpstart the thinking process with a JW.
Best regards,
Cyber
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Comments You Will Not Hear at the 11-5-06 WT Study (COURAGEOUS FAITH FEAR)
by blondie in"be courageous and strong ... jehovah your god is with you.
be courageous and strong.
" (joshua 1:8, 9) because joshua listened to god, he proved to be courageous, strong, and successful.
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Blondie,
I see this WT and tract work as a way to control the R&F by having them do something that everyone hates and will no doubt have a negative response, especially in non-Christian neighborhoods or predominantly non-Christian countries. Then when the “persecution” comes they will say, “We told you this would happen! Therefore, God is with you! The Kingdom is here! Get ready to take-over your neighbor’s home on the lake after the birds have dinner! And don’t forget about the petting-zoo every JW will soon have! All this God has promised!”
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Who is DF/DA or Fader???
by mama1119 ini was just wondering, how many dfed to we have on here compared to da or faders??
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The JW phrase I most despise is...
by exwitless in"need greaters" ugh!!
i hate that phrase and i always have.
we knew a jw couple who applied every year to bethel and giliad until the age cut-off (age 35 or 40?).
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The SLAVE says...
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More to the letter...
by Matt_fs inmy jw friend had wrote me a letter and i explained a little about it here:.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/10/120896/1.ashx.
but in his letter he wrote some more and i was wondering what all you thought about it, and see what some of your comments were.
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Matt,
The problem with JW's isn't that they don't talk about God and Jesus, but it's the way they relegate Jesus to an inferior position relative to their "earthly organization" (JW-speak for the religious structure of the JW's, including their Pope-like "governing body" and hierarchy of religious management).
If you reflect on some of the talks and prayers you've heard at the Kingdom Hall, you"ll probably recall how often this combination of "God and his organization" is brought to the fore, how it is continuously emphasized, lauded and praised. This is probably due to their fundamental teaching that Jesus gave them "all his belongings" which they claim are all his "earthly assets" circa 1919. Hence the constant rant about the "organization!" "How important for all "stick close" to the "organization," they say! ""Obey the Organizaion" if you want to please God."
Moreover, your friend's comment about Jesus being a "door" to God really does not fit the inner beliefs of most JW's! Please ask your friend if it is possible for anyone to go through the "door," or must one also be associated with their "organization" for worship to be acceptable to God" Fundamentally, the JW's believe (although they won"t directly admit to it) that their "organization" is "the Way the Truth and the Life!" For JW's, Jesus is merely an old-fashioned "switchboard operator" to God in prayer and nothing more.
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The GB, jehovah and correcting grevious errors
by greendawn inwhat do you think about the doctrine of the gb which maintains that it is no one's business to meddle in the way they run god's org (in fact their org) because god himself will put things right in his due time?.
isn't that a disgusting excuse to let them carry on abusing the r&f with false knowledge?
just think of it there are many errors many r&f are pointing them out and god is sitting there mysteriously ignoring the errors and as if by a whim he will at some time later decide to direct the gb to correct these errors.
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Hello "greendawn!" You've posted more than I have! I love your posts such as this, however! Regarding the "GB," since when have they ever been appointed? I asked this to my "elder" brother, and he had no answer! I asked him why is it that this special group has such control, but have NO scriptural basis for their existence. Of course, he did not know how to respond. Anyway, there's NOTHING scriptural about the GB. It's a man-made doctrine that distorts Bible teachings! Since my last conversation (nearly 3 years ago), he no longer talks to me!