Not just for burying? Yea, but everyone is dying to get there!
Cyber (hehe)
i live in a metropolitan area.
crime is on a rampage in this city, in fact, we're #1 in the country as far as murders per capita statistic go.
where does one go to find a safe outing for your morning jog, daily walk, or just to get away from all the hustle and bustle of the city life?
Not just for burying? Yea, but everyone is dying to get there!
Cyber (hehe)
this may not be a forever goodbye, but its certainly a goodbye to this stage of my life because i need to make real progress instead of just talking about it.
i may post the odd post on a rare occasion, but its not part of my plan really.. i posted a topic called the truth, which was originally going to be my farewell to this forum.
i think with my current situation, having a son and having a family that requires my attention it would be wise for me to move on in some shape or form, because i dont want the negativity of the watchtower society to rub off on my son and give him any of the grief and worries i had when i was growing up.
I wish you the best! Yes, we all need to move on until we are no longer captives to the WT! Take care!
in "observadors" thread, http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/10/141584/1.ashx a poster named "on the way out" mentioned being baptised at a ymca pool.
(thanks for the thought, "otwo").. has anyone else had this experience?
is there a way to find any documentation on this?
You bet! I was baptised in a rented YMCA pool. Like the UN, it's okay if they do something with it, but not us!
dear friends,.
i need help finding when, how and where i might find that announcement..publication...where the new procedure was not to announce ones as being dfed..but now they were to be annnounced as "no longer one of jehovahs witnesses".
with that change, it made it so that those who were not active could technically be announced.
Gopher
You’re right on the money! If you’re trying to the fade-thing, then be careful about the trick questions coming from elders. Like I said, they’ve been instructed to determine if someone wants to remain a JW. And told to ask specific questions to rid their cult of malcontents! Anyway, if you have family and friends in it, be aware the trap!
Cyber
dear friends,.
i need help finding when, how and where i might find that announcement..publication...where the new procedure was not to announce ones as being dfed..but now they were to be annnounced as "no longer one of jehovahs witnesses".
with that change, it made it so that those who were not active could technically be announced.
Cognizant dissident,
No, there were no instructions for those not answering the question. However, it would be best to not answer the question(s), or rather, answer it in terms of, “why do you ask?” You can also say, “If you are asking if I consider myself a ‘Christian’ then yes!” Of course, this is not really the answer they are expecting, but a way to work around the system! It’s “theocratic warfare,” but only if you have family and friends in that you worried about loosing them!
It is sad to report that there are a number of friends I have that have answered “no” to the question, in complete innocence of course, and have summarily been DF’d! Therefore, if you want to do the “fade” thing, then say nothing, do nothing, and definitely admit to nothing!
Cyber
dear friends,.
i need help finding when, how and where i might find that announcement..publication...where the new procedure was not to announce ones as being dfed..but now they were to be annnounced as "no longer one of jehovahs witnesses".
with that change, it made it so that those who were not active could technically be announced.
Lady Liberty,
You are correct in thinking that there is a provision in kicking people out who no longer attend meetings. However, there is a process, and you alluded to it in your thread.
In the last two elder schools I went to (when I was an elder), specific instructions were given on dealing with inactive ones. Elders were instructed (they told us to write verbatim in our notes) to pose one of three questions. One of the questions was, “do you still consider yourself as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses?” If the reply is no, then the elders were to make a public announcement that such-and-such “is no longer one of Jehovah’s Witnesses.” If they said yes, then they were to offer a Bible study, etc.
Cyber
has anyone reviewed this material?
i think the writer is mistaken on a number of issues!.
http://www.jehovahsjudgment.co.uk/watchtower-un-ngo/.
Has anyone reviewed this material? I think the writer is mistaken on a number of issues!
just to catalog these by week:.
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Thanks for the giggles!
i'm a ministerial servant and i've been to only 2 congregation meetings in about 2 and 1/2 months and haven't turned in a field service report for those two months as well.
i've also skipped some assignments within that timeframe.
the elders talked to me last week about possibly removing me because of the ex-fiancee situation, but i'm still being assigned to these parts.
When I was an elder and on the way out (not actually removed, that took 3 months), they took me off meeting parts amd removed me from all assignments (I was the school overseer). Even low hours in field service will get you taken off assignments, unless you're on your death-bed, and even then they'd still want to see you get the 15 mins./month!
The way I read this illustration is that Jesus is the one that declares them “faithful and discreet!” Has anyone heard Jesus’ voice making such a pronouncement?