Well, the guy hasn't contributed to Awake for some years, but from what I understand, he died recently, and his wife too! He had been in charge of Awake! Magazines for decades! I do not believe his death has influenced the pull-back to once-a-month publication of Awake! Magazines! However, I'm sure his death has given pause to the "generation" that thought they'd see the "end" in their lifetime.
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Harry Peloyan DEAD!
by cyberguy inwell, the guy hasn't contributed to awake for some years, but from what i understand, he died recently, and his wife too!
he had been in charge of awake!
magazines for decades!
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The Truth Hurts The Most
by minimus inwhat's the best way to get to people to expose the watchtower's lies??
tell the truth.
point out how jws are a cult.
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Min, I use to believe that the best approach was to use logic and reason. Unfortunately, I haven't been that successful with that approach. Probably the reason is, that most of those who became JW's in adult life got into it mainly because of its emotional appeal, not logic and reason. So my new approach is to appeal to emotional needs first, with logic and reason second.
I recently had an opportunity to try this out on a young JW couple, and oh boy, did I get an ear load! I started the conversation off by asking them how they felt about never doing enough in the organization, no matter how much one does it's never enough! This eventually led to a brief discussion about some really crazy WT teachings, and I provided them a reference in WT literature for further examination. I'll make an RV soon; it looks very promising! -- hehe
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WTS Bills US JWs $8.4 million for Traveling Overseers
by ezekiel3 inbeing announced at service meetings this week at all us congregations:.
a letter read during the announcements states that due to increased costs of health insurance and vehicles provided for traveling overseers (circuit and district overseers) the watchtower bible and tract society has determined the need to ask for a specific "contribution" for the "traveling overseer assistance arrangement".. .
until this date expenses of this sort were paid from the worldwide work or general fund of contributions.. .
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All I can say is WOW!
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Ozzie's Weekend Poll #134 (It's about the Awake! again!!!)
by ozziepost inhow have things been with you this past week?
hope it's been better than mine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
still i'm reassured by one of my favorite texts, one that has sustained me through difficulties:.
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Good to see you posting again OZ! I wish you a speedy recovery my friend!
Regarding Awake! Magazines online, they already have a cross section of older articles organized by topic on their web site. However, items 3, 6, 8, and 10 seem to agree with me. Also, they'll probably continue to move away from printed literature as they can make a lot more money producing videos!
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Daniel 4......
by Stromboli inlet's assume that the 70 year prophecy will be confirmed by all archeologists and geremia 29:10 is correctly rendered "at babilonia" so 607-537 is fine.
when we get to daniel 4 we have the dream and the tree is compared to the king nebuchadnezzar.
the wt confirms this and all is fine.
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Some good points Stromboli!
Early publications of the Society (circa 1922 and before) actually state that God turned his universal sovereignty over to Nebuchadnezzer! More recent publications, however, try to deflect this obvious problem by restricting it to God's sovereignty with reference to the earth. But as you point out, the paragraph first states that the tree stands for God's universal sovereignty; their explaination is truly confusing! Anyway, did God actually turn his sovereignty over earth to a demon worshiper in 607 BCE? And even prior to that, did God turn his sovereignty over to the kingly line of David? Where is that in the Bible? The whole Gentile Times concept is simply CRAZY!
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Tim Olson kicked out of Bethel..............
by integ ina higher profile bethelite has been kicked out of bethel.
there are hints that there are more to come.. .
integ.
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On another note, I heard a rumor that there's a major uprising, where some from high positions and those that have left or been kick-out, are doing a major letter-writing campaign to see if they can jolt the GB! Has anyone else heard about this? And is this related to this purging?
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Tim Olson kicked out of Bethel..............
by integ ina higher profile bethelite has been kicked out of bethel.
there are hints that there are more to come.. .
integ.
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integ,
His name sort of rings a bell from the long past -- I was in the big house from 1978-1980, and that name sounds familiar. Please elaborate.
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Comments You Will Not Hear at the 5-15-05 WT Study (Children Pt 2)
by blondie in(psalm 36:9) parents, how do you view receiving such a precious gift from god?.
(scriptures: 1 snippet, 1 cited).
(scriptures: 2, cited; 2 snippets).
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As you mention, Blondie, JW parents are not made aware of the real dangers from the real predator pedophiles within the "spiritual paradise!" Watchtower points to the outside, whereas, the real danger is within!
I talked to one JW from my old congregation recently (a young man, in his 30's, married, 3 kids), and he said that a 34 year old man sexually molested a 15 year old girl in my old hall. Of course NOTHING WAS DONE! No announcement! NO NOTHING! Evidently the parents of the girl are informing others! They'll probably be facing judicial action when found out!
Well, my friend, married with 3 kids, all very young, is simply terrified about attending that hall! He's been in it his whole life, and is trying to please his parents by making attempts to attend with his family, but he is terrified of the pedophiles that appear to have little restraint! He told me that he makes sure that when he does attend, that his wife accompanies his 2 young daughters to the bathroom, for fear that one of the pedophiles, protected within the framework (like this young man mentioned, raised in the "truth"), might molest his little girls!
Thanks Blondie!
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JW's United Defend W.T.'s Relationship With U.N.
by Kenneson inwe have all read info here and elsewhere exposing the w.t.
society's involvement with the u.n. i have found a site which is trying to minimize the damage that has been wrought.
i hope many of you will read it and offer your viewpoints or critiques.. http://www.wtdefended.co.sr/ .
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Hey Kenneson,
That link you have isn't working for me! Do you have another link?
Thanks.
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Mrs Ozzie asked me to inform you all that........................
by BLISSISIGNORANCE in....................our great mate ozzie is sick in hospital.
he isn't able to post so i am the go-between for the moment.. if you want more details or contact information pm me and i will make sure it's ok with the ozzies to forward those details to you.. ozzie is a tough dude and having known him for many years i am confident he will be back on board before too long!.
please be patient with me as i work and can only check my pms in the evenings.
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Please tell the Ozzie?s that we x-JWer's, from the "land hell froze-over" (USA), give our warmest! Hope Bro Ozzie gets well soonest! Give them our best! Wish Bro Ozzie get well soonest!
Warmest!
Cyber