What difference does it really make what year Jerusalem was sacked. Zedekiah blinded and killed and removed from the typical davidic throne. Etc etc etc. The whole process of understanding what Jesus meant by Jerusalem being trampled on by the nations should be looked at from the original author's point of view and who his intended audience was. Scholar, do you really think the Lukian writers concerned themselves with a date far far off in the future, 1800 or so years later?
Posts by Cygnus
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129Many many books from library on 586/87
by ithinkisee ini have listed all the books i found at the library that mention 586/87 as the fall of jerusalem.
i was also able to link to all of them (except the first one listed) on amazon.com!
many are out of print or unavailable as new books but you can buy almost all of them used on amazon.com ... some are only $10-12 each!
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HOW LONG WILL YOU LIVE?
by Amazing1914 inthe following link is very interesting.
it is from the web site of northwestern mutual financial.
they are part of northwestern mutual life insurance.
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Cygnus
79 for me. Biggest factor was the 5 years taken off for the smoking. But in actuality I have no pulminary issues at all (borne out by hospital beathing tests and x-rays of the chest).
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Girls.............do you wiggle when you walk?
by vitty ini feel really embarrassed when i walk my dog down the street, as i know i wiggle but cant help it.
it really seems to have gone out of fashion, a while a go ( ok years ago) when i was young every young girl tried to wiggle when she walked but now they dont know the word!!!
they just seem to show off their bellies and forget the rear!.
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Cygnus
My girl's got it all, comin' and goin'. I'm hugely lucky and happy. :)
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Alan F's flaming arguments and insults
by Rex inhi alan, .
have you ever looked at the carved up mountains, hills and valleys?????
have examined the remarkable similarity to the mount st. helen's canyon that was carved our very quickly?
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Cygnus
Rex, I remember you, I remember your debates with a catholic on H2O probably six years ago. Doing ok? You know how Alan works, you don't have to ask to have it explained to you. Since your exit from the JWs, why can't you apply the same level of scrutiny and real scholastic approach to this subject?
Alan, if Julie hadn't have already snatched you up some years ago I would have stalked you until you gave in to my desires.
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Trinity- True or False
by defd ini know from going door to door that people are generally divided as to who god is.
what are your thoughts?
is jesus almighty god?
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Cygnus
I see extremely little in Holy Writ that demonstrates how Jesus could be Jehovah. I think C.T. Russell's admonition of Christ's post-resurrection divinity while not attributing his being as HO-ON ("The Being" cf. Ex. 3:14 in LXX) as rather brillliant. It solves the Col 2:9 "problem" and every trinatrian argument against antitrintarianism. That said, however, something JanH said some eight years ago or more has stuck with me: The Trinity dogma essentially acknowledges all the contradictory statements about Christ in the NT and "solves the problem." Ergo, if I were to be a Christian again I would accept the Trinity, primarily based on the evolution of its understanding from Origen to Athanasius.
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VERY INTERESTING ARTICLE
by Oroborus21 in.
don't know if anyone cited this previously here at jwd.. this is a very interesting, fair and accurate article summary of paper presented last june at a cesnur conference.. http://www.cesnur.org/2005/pa_brown.htm#_edn37.
simon and jwd were mentioned!.
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Cygnus
My old friend Eduardo, I hope you are doing well with your enterprise and practice. I'd love to hear from you personally. PM me if you have the chance.
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Head Spinning.. and old friends, esp. Princess Irulan
by Cygnus insince i'm out of work with bilateral radial palsy i've had time to read, read, read some more.
and yakk on the phone a lot and with personal friends.
do you ever find your head literally swimming with information?
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Cygnus
oh anne, if i could only type better..... i have to hover my hands over the keyboard and drop them and hope my pointer-fingers hit the right keys... backspace gets a workout. thank you for saying hi :) and if you or anyone else would like to talk on the phone pm me and i'll give out my phone # and call you back if you want me to assume the charges
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Sep 15th WT: At it again: WT says elements in the UN will attack religion
by truthseeker init seems that the watchtower has not learnt any lessons regarding their involvement in the united nations.
perhaps they think the outcry that a few witnesses made a couple of years ago has died down.
they have been silent about the united nations for about 3 years until they published an article in the sep 15th watchtower, "walk by faith, not by sight!
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Cygnus
Leo, I have admired you from afar and really appreciate how you take apart sentences and extract a sensible understanding of what is really being said, not to mention your tireless research and postings. That goes for peacefulpete as well. Thank you.
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Head Spinning.. and old friends, esp. Princess Irulan
by Cygnus insince i'm out of work with bilateral radial palsy i've had time to read, read, read some more.
and yakk on the phone a lot and with personal friends.
do you ever find your head literally swimming with information?
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Cygnus
Since I'm out of work with bilateral radial palsy I've had time to read, read, read some more. And yakk on the phone a lot and with personal friends. Do you ever find your head literally swimming with information? Like your brain has gone to mush but desperately wants more anyhow? That's how I feel. Damned books and internet, especially this paper http://www.hedweb.com/hedab.htm .
Also, I'd like to hear from some old friends, even if I can't type much. joelbear, alanf, kenp, princess irulan and some from the old H2O days. I'm very lonely. Thanks for reading.
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RUSSEL MEETS RUTHERFORD: a fantasy conversation
by Terry inthe impossible can be fun.
let's have some fun!!
there is a knock at the bedroom door.
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Cygnus
Terry, I would consider myself an authority on JWism and their history, but what you've done here puts any thinking of mine to shame. I would like to PM you.