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  On this Forum my Light is getting Dimmer

  by Spectrum in

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  i don't know if it is a good or bad thing but my view of jws has got dimmer since i joined jwd.

  the reason i'm not sure is because i don't dislike the jws per se as i've met some good people but at the same time i feel more suspicious of these people's drive and motive - i'm talking about the ones i know personally.

  i find that disconserting and uncomfortable.

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  ontarget

  Elise,

  I want to apoligize for being less than tackful in my earlier comments. I am very empathetic of others, I consider myself a nice person and the last thing that I want to do is make someone else feel bad. I do have some anger toward the WTS, I am getting over it but takes time and this forum is the first time that I have had the opportunity to express myself about the WTS. I was the congregation secretary. My wife and I both told the other elders that we were leaving, don't bother us. They harrassed us for 3 years when they would see things like when they read in the newspaper that my wife gave blood. Then (2 years ago) I wrote a letter to the elders and the WTS. Now when I see witnesses in the store they turn and run the other way, my brothers will not speak to me and my parents will not speak to me. A great loss? no, obviously they are not that good of people but it is hard to face the fact that your parents and brothers don't like you anymore. Maybe it would be easier if they did bad things to me as then I would hate them back and feel no loss but as it is I don't dislike them for it. I believe that witnesses are like watchdogs, they are very friendly and loving when you are inside the group but when they sense that you do not belong OMG watch out!
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  On this Forum my Light is getting Dimmer

  by Spectrum in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i don't know if it is a good or bad thing but my view of jws has got dimmer since i joined jwd.

  the reason i'm not sure is because i don't dislike the jws per se as i've met some good people but at the same time i feel more suspicious of these people's drive and motive - i'm talking about the ones i know personally.

  i find that disconserting and uncomfortable.

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  Thank you for your thoughts.

  One thing to keep in though, most other religions do not go to extreems to make sure that everyone knows that JW children are different from other school kids. They don't make it a sin to have friends that are not of their religion. They don't instruct family members to abhore one who chooses not to believe anymore. They don't make saving your life with blood a sin. They don't say it is ok to take blood fractions but difellowship you if you give blood to help other people. I could go on and on but my point is that I am fine with the fact that most religions think they are right, the problem is they are extreem, they are high control, they take away love and happiness and the ability to enjoy the life that we are now living. You can only love others if they are witnesses, you are to live small, give to the WT, hate the world around you while you look forward to the paradise.
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  Calling All Apologists/Sympathizers

  by Sentient in

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  2. friends

  okay, i'd like to invite some comments about this, particulary from those of you who don't believe or follow what the wtbts teaches, yet on the other hand have made comments regarding the witnesses such as: .

  "but if it makes you happy..." .

  "...more power to you..." .

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  People need to know that if they leave the witnesses they will have support from others that have gone through the same or similar difficulties. However, timing is everything. If someone is not ready emotionally, physically or financially to leave their family (parents, children, mates, brothers and sisters, aunts, uncles and cousins), friends, home and many times their job or career then you could be leading them down a road of despair and suicide by advising them to leave before they are ready.
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  very very important read important!

  by iamtherealjesus in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i would like to first off stating that my name is migu jandhiki.

  i am the prophet of jesus that u have all been looking for!

  i have been fallowing all the studys of jehovah's witness very carefully.

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  Jesus got me thinking.

  I now believe that I am God.

  My new name will be thisistherealgod
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  very very important read important!

  by iamtherealjesus in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i would like to first off stating that my name is migu jandhiki.

  i am the prophet of jesus that u have all been looking for!

  i have been fallowing all the studys of jehovah's witness very carefully.

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  Dear Jesus,

  Should I pray in your name? And how do you pronounce your name? Is it Jesus or Hesus or what?

  I pray these things in Jesus name, oh thats right I can't talk to you. Never mind I will ask God.
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  Beards are evil, but do you know why?

  by free2beme in

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  as a witness, i knew several men who attempted to grow beards.

  when they did, and attended meetings, it did not take long to be talked to by elders and told, "as spiritual men, they should not display an outward form of rebellion.

  " why was this a form of rebellion?

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  When I was a witness I wanted to grow a beard but you know it was bad. I grew a goatee before I left and one elder questioned me about it. I told him that Jesus had a beard, he asked if I was going to start wearing a robe too. Beards are very common in Nebraska, especially in the winter time even among the business men. It seemed to me that it was always based on displaying a rebelious atitude. I have a beard now.
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  Calling all apologists/sympathizers...

  by Sentient in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  okay, i'd like to invite some comments about this, particulary from those of you who don't believe or follow what the wtbts teaches, yet on the other hand have made comments regarding the witnesses such as: .

  "but if it makes you happy..." .

  "...more power to you..." .

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  ontarget

  People need to know that if they leave the witnesses they will have support from others that have gone through the same or similar difficulties. However, timing is everything. If someone is not ready emotionally, physically or financially to leave their family (parents, children, mates, brothers and sisters, aunts, uncles and cousins), friends, home and many times their job or career then you could be leading them down a road of despair and suicide by advising them to leave before they are ready.
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  What did you do with your literature when you left?

  by ontarget in

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  what did you do with your literature when you left?

  i burned my literature except for the wt cd which i sold on ebay.

  i did not want to just throw the literature away as i did not want the trash man to read it and become a witness.

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  What did you do with your literature when you left? And why?

  I burned my literature except for the WT CD which I sold on Ebay. I did not want to just throw the literature away as I did not want the trash man to read it and become a Witness. (you have read the experiences) I did not want to help the Witnesses in any way. It was also good therapy for working through some of the anger. If you burn yours make sure you have a safe outdoor place to do it, a wall full of old books and bound volumes take a long time to burn. As for the CD I figured that only a non-witness would buy it on Ebay.
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  Do you feel you have more friends now that you left?

  by ButtLight in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  its funny to me... i was just talking to someone i consider my friend.

  she doesnt come on here, but she left the "truth".

  i now have gotten to know her and her husband, along with their son and his wife.

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  tijkmo,

  I know what you mean. I get along with just about anybody, I had friends when I was a witness but it seems that people that I know now through my job have only one goal, getting drunk. I like beer, I even make my own beer and wine but it is not my life. I think that my lack of true friends is in part due to the fact that most people here have a lot of family members that all live nearby and they are not interested in making any efforts toward having friends. Also people in their 40's are not that open to accepting new freinds. I am also sure that we are all a little weird for having escaped the watchtower. We think deep, have strong beliefs and are not very trusting. I have some freinds but I hope to have more.
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  Local Needs - Disfellowshipped in the family, how to treat...........

  by DaCheech in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this weeks local needs basically (summed up) told us not to speak to family members that are disfellowshipped unless they live in your house, and this conversation is very necessary.

  also you cannot attend funerals, and weddings, etc.. how sorry i felt for the disfellowshipped one in our hall, and the parents (everyone knew who the talk was about).. to make it even worse, after the talk was over there was another part, and then the song was to follow.... well before the song/prayer the presiding overseer went on stage for another 10 minutes, re-emphasing the local needs talk the other elder has done.. during the prayer... i was praying to whatever god is up there to make these arsewipes pay for what they are doing.

  those 2 minutes of prayer were getting me close to crying/screeming.

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  ontarget

  I remember many local needs talks that were directed at specific individuals. On one occasion the same local needs talk was given twice because certain persons were not at the meeting due to an information leak that tipped off these ones that a talk was going to be given about them. Talk about feeling bad for people! I was an elder at the time and this was one of the things that helped me to leave. I hated when I was assigned a local needs talk as the other elders would dictate what the talk was to be about and they were always discouraging. You have your reasons for staying in. I would just like to say that I do not believe that you are living a lie. You are living a life in which you choose to hold onto things that are important to you. If that means sitting in church for a few hours a week then so be it. However, you may or may not change your view in time. I hope you do not get too depressed. My heart goes out to you.