Like B2DF said, there were murals here and there, esp in the dining rooms. Of course, I didn't get into each and every room, but I never saw on display any paintings or photos of ANY real person.
Craig
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Calling All Bethelites & Former
by somebody ini have an inquiring mind.. .
are there pictures of charles t. russell and/or da judge rutherford hanging up at the wtbs?.
are their any pictures of jesus christ hanging up at the wbts?.
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Best intentions, irony & drugs
by Simon inan interesting programme on tv mentioned something that i never knew: .
in the 1800's london, the use of laudanum was widespread.
laudanum was an opiate that had been imported from overseas.
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onacruse
Dang it, Lyin Eyes, you're paying the price for not following the decades-old revelation of the WTS that ALUMINUM IS THE BRAIN KILLER!! That's what you feel flowing out of canned Coke...the slow destruction of your cerebrum.
Craig
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How did you say goodbye
by simplesally inhow did you bring it up?.
i was nervous.
but it took about a half hour and then within about 2 days, he moved to his sisters.
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onacruse
Well, she told me to get out or she'd call the police. Said she'd claim threat of bodily harm, even though I'd never touched her roughly in our entire 17 years. Said this in front of our son (22). I asked if he thought that was fair...he said no. She gave me 48 hours. It took me 36.
2 hours to get out for each year married...and the severance paycheck went the other way.
I've a new and much better love now, but that divorce still stings.
Craig
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NEW GUY
by CHICKEN LIPS inok have taken advice and started own thread - actually feel a wee bit nervous about this - but what the heck!
you only live once right **grin**.. i am from sydney australia - was brought up as a jw and have been disfellowshipped once...when i was 21 yo currently 29. i only came back in because i am terrified of armageddon.....living in fear is not good for the mind!!.
does anyone else understand this fear???
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onacruse
Welcome Chicken Lips!
Much better handle than, say, Laughing Kookaburra
Lots and lots of common experiences and thoughts here, hope you enjoy it all.
Craig
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Best intentions, irony & drugs
by Simon inan interesting programme on tv mentioned something that i never knew: .
in the 1800's london, the use of laudanum was widespread.
laudanum was an opiate that had been imported from overseas.
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onacruse
SS: Referencing historical fact, quoted from a source recognized by the party(ies) under discussion, can never rightfully be considered bashing, eh?
In a similar vein, history shows that virtually all the wealthy American families of the early 20th-century (Carnegies, Rockefellers, etc) derived their fortunes from the ruthless exploitation of hapless millions of workers, a major factor in the rise of labor unions and federal regulations in the 1920s-30s.
Fact is fact.
Craig
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ScooterGirl
by shera in.
thanks for your e-mail.just wanted everyone to know what a nice person you are.. thanks for helping me understand a situation better.it is hard to read people over the net.
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onacruse
Val: Beware of sheep in biker gear I always say.
YEAH! See what happened with bikerchic and me?!?!
AND SCOOTERGIRL HELPED KATIE ALL ALONG!!!
Craig
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I Am Home From Surgery....Hooray!!!
by Robdar inmy surgery is over and i am home.
the doctor said that she has never seen anybody recover as quickly as i am.
i am sure that all your prayers and well wishes are the reason why i am doing so well.
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onacruse
WELL!!!! <<tapping foot>> It's about TIME you stopped playing around at the hospital and got home!!
Glad things went so well...
Craig & Katie
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Best intentions, irony & drugs
by Simon inan interesting programme on tv mentioned something that i never knew: .
in the 1800's london, the use of laudanum was widespread.
laudanum was an opiate that had been imported from overseas.
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onacruse
Two other examples I can think of, probably common knowledge:
1) Coca-Cola originally was provided as a syrup that you had to mix with your own "solvent," and actually had cocaine as an admixture;
2) Not nearly as relevant, but: The Nazis included daily rations of methamphetamine for all their troops.
Quite the pick-me-ups, eh?
Craig
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Simon said,(referring to Jewish discussion)
by cookie inin another thread simon said: .
".....but there is a correct and rational way to discuss and debate this " .
so can we please discuss this.. collectively, there is a lot of insight on this board,and aside from the negativity that was generated,this topic had many facets that were of great interest.
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onacruse
Cookie, I didn't participate in the threads you mention (except for one short post), but imho your inquiry here has merit, if only by reason of your moderate tone.
Arthur Hertzberg says (Judaism, p. 28): "But why did God choose this people? There are several partial answers: the merits of their ancestors, chiefly Abraham, who accepted the One God and broke with idolatry; their comparative virtue; their humility and their faithfulness. The first reason, the argument based on the merit of Abraham, recurs everywhere in Jewish literature, and especially in the liturgy."
Well, if this is the case, then knowing/proving direct descent from Abraham would have considerable value! Sorta like being a blood relative of the Rockefellers, eh?
Interesting that Hertzberg goes on to say (p.35): "Judaism does accept converts. They are indeed especially precious to God. Their virtue is not so much that they have accepted the Jewish faith, for good men can attain salvation in their own religions. It is that they have taken upon themselves the special burden of Jewish destiny and obligation of becoming part of a priest-people, by choice and adoption 'children of Abraham.' "
From this I would conclude that the writers of the Abrahamic story, or at least the expounders of that story, want to convey exactly the impression that many (most?) non-Jews get...that it ain't what you know, it's who your father was.
Just my thought. Not being Jewish, or having had any Jewish friends, I can't speak from any personal knowledge, and may be misinterpreting.
Craig
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Shunning/Going To Meetings Question
by reubenfine ini was never df'd or da'd.
i am curious if you ever were and were reinstated, what was it like to be shunned and treated as a non-person while sitting in the rear of the hall?
i can only imagine it to be the utmost humiliation on top of a public disfellowshipping and can't imagine having to go through it.
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I was reinstated when it was still allowed for the audience to applaud. I have been in this same area for almost 40 years, and my reinstatement was rather welcomed. I was under restrictions for about 6 months, and the only "embarrassing" thing that happened was being out in mid-week field service and having to defer to sisters to conduct the meeting and say the prayer.
I still felt that the reason for my being df'd (for apostasy) was bogus, and as a result felt no personal discomfort...just treated it as going through the "process."
A friend of mine was df'd about the same time (for adultery), went through the reinstatement procedure, was at the Hall the night his rei-ing was announced, walked out the door and never ever came back.
In that respect, anyway, he was the smarter one.
Craig