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  How many elders, HLC members know CPR?

  by just n from bethel in

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  anyone who has ever taken a first aid class knows that cpr training and first aid training are basic life saving requirements for anyone in the professional medical community.

  if you were ever discussing any medical choices with someone who wanted to advise you on a medical / health decision, you would want to be comfortable that if something were to happen to you all the sudden, that this person you were seeking advice from could provide basic medical aid, like cpr.

  if it's a nurse or a doctor or a paramedic, you would expect that they would know what to do.

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  Qualified and certificated to administer emergency treatment for accidents or illness but not considered capable of passing a microphone!!!

  Isn't that just soo crazy?

  I ran a million dollar private health practice. Professionals called and respected my advise and suggestions. But I was not qualified to assist behind the literature counter (except for in my teens when my dad wanted help with inventory at midnight after a Thursday night meeting).

  I worked in radio as a producer and board engineer but was not qualified to touch the sound board at the Hall.

  -Aude.
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  have you ever.....

  by deservingone26 in

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  ive lived in arizona all my life and lately been thinking alot about moving to another state.

  im thinking san diego right now and am currently saving to move hopefully this summer in june or july .

  so have any of you ever moved somewhere brand new where u knew no one, no family or friends, i think it would be nice to have a fresh start and new environment i.

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  AudeSapere

  I live in Ventura County and LOVE it. Been here since 1979. (from NewJersey by way of Pennsylvania).

  40 minutes from SantaBarbara. 45 minutes from LA.

  Ventura County has the same nice, temperate weather that SantaBarbara has but is not quite as expensive. Still expensive here, but not as bad as Santa Barbara.

  The beach cities south of here are fun to visit but too crowded for my comfort.

  If you come for a visit, be sure to let us know. We can plan a little 'fest or meet-up.

  -Aude.
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  How many elders, HLC members know CPR?

  by just n from bethel in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  anyone who has ever taken a first aid class knows that cpr training and first aid training are basic life saving requirements for anyone in the professional medical community.

  if you were ever discussing any medical choices with someone who wanted to advise you on a medical / health decision, you would want to be comfortable that if something were to happen to you all the sudden, that this person you were seeking advice from could provide basic medical aid, like cpr.

  if it's a nurse or a doctor or a paramedic, you would expect that they would know what to do.

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  Found Sheep - you have a pm.
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  How many elders, HLC members know CPR?

  by just n from bethel in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  anyone who has ever taken a first aid class knows that cpr training and first aid training are basic life saving requirements for anyone in the professional medical community.

  if you were ever discussing any medical choices with someone who wanted to advise you on a medical / health decision, you would want to be comfortable that if something were to happen to you all the sudden, that this person you were seeking advice from could provide basic medical aid, like cpr.

  if it's a nurse or a doctor or a paramedic, you would expect that they would know what to do.

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  You are right. Just the title made me smile as it's something I've never thought about.

  I have been CPR certified (but past time to renew my training). On a very basic level, it shows love and regard for the people that you care about (children, family, friends, neighbors, parishioners/congregation members) as, more often than not, the person that will need your assistance is someone you already know.

  I would venture to guess that not many elders have taken a CPR course. And even less are current on their certifications.

  My dad was an exception - sort of. Back in the early 70's he took CPR and First Aid courses (and Dale Carnegie courses) in order to advance his 'Theocratic Career'. We kids were told to keep quiet about his classes as he didn't want the 'brothers' to know. He got his wish - about a year or two after baptism he ran the infirmiry for our circuit (reported to an untrained but established elder and they both got counsel and assistance from an MD who was also in our circuit).

  We kids took the admonishment to not tell anyone so seriously that I think this is the first time I'm telling ANYONE about it~!!

  I don't think my dad *ever* updated his training, though. But he still considers himself trained to handle emergencies.

  And maybe he is more capaple than most. I have no way of knowing.

  -Aude.
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  You ever go through extended moments where nothing satisfies you, to the point you wouldn't mind dying?

  by miseryloveselders in

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  don't get me wrong, this isn't a call for help or anything like that.

  i'm not about to do anything stupid, just feeling a little down and exhausted tonight.

  i feel defeated, even though i don't feel as if i'm battling anything.

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  Yes. And I went to therapy for it. When it got really, really bad I was on meds. Hated the first prescription. The second was OK. Haven't used any for about ten years.

  Also, you mentioned winter weather for a few sentences.

  I am in no way trying to diagnose you, but the weather comments made me think of Seasonal Affective Disorder. Could be making things more difficult for you.

  http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/seasonal-affective-disorder/DS00195

  It may or may not relate to you, but some of the 'fixes' might help elevate and/or stabilize your mood.

  I am interested in other comments that you may get.

  -Aude.
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  ExJWs and NonJWs Ask: Should I Try to Change My Mate?

  by pirata in

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  i put this together more as a collection of my thoughts.

  i would appreciate hearing your thoughts, disagreements, rebuttals, etc on this subject as it has been weighing a lot on my mind lately:.

  after reading a lot of heart-breaking stories over the years on this message forum about mates who no longer believe in the jw religion, the common thread seems to be a desire to get the jw mate to see the same thing; with usually dissapointing results.. i am currently of the opinion that maybe the best thing is not to try to change your mate's religion.

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  Cutaway wrote: I remember every situation like this being given the same scriptural admonition;, "Win your wife/husband over, without a word".

  The end results of 10, 20 , 30 years of this spriitual "silent treatment", can be alienation, unhappiness, wasted lives, and many times, the death of what God had joined together.

  Wow. I NEVER heard this scripture interpreted to mean 'give them the silent treatment'. In fact, just the opposite. I always took 'without a word' to mean 'without preaching, harping, nagging, etc'.

  In context the scripture does not seem to indicate a dispassionate shrew but, rather, an involved and attentive spouse (wife) trying to win over an 'unbelieving' spouse with kindness and radiant inner beauty.

  The more-loving interpretation of this scripture was a running theme in my family when asked how they came into the 'truth':

  Before my parents started studying, we hosted some international visitors for the 1969 convention in NYC. Four adults stayed with us for 3 weeks. My dad had just one rule for them: No Preaching.

  And so it was. They could talk about any other subject than the Bible and their religion. Because of the respect they showed for my father's request (demand?), it softened my parents to the message that was later presented by other local witnesses with the result that they were baptized at the very next summer convention.

  I cannot imagine what it would be like to live for a week with someone who is so distant and alienated from me. After a month I would want to hang myself - or leave. Cannot even begin to imagine what 10 - 20 - 30 YEARS would be like. OMFG~!!

  But back to the OP. Finding fun, upbuilding, interesting activities for each of you is a much better use of time than harping on the dissonance. Letting the 'believing' spouse have their space and creating a 'safe' environment where they can let their hair down can be a much easier path than forcing them to keep on alert for breaches in their spiritual armor.

  Good Post. I think it's an important discussion. One that should be BTTT'd often.

  Cutaway - Welcome to JWN! Really nice to have you join us and join in the discussion. Looking forward to hearing more from you in the future.

  -Aude.
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  Why do the JWs have such an aversion to philosophy?

  by Darth Eowyn in

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  2. beliefs

  i mean, they seem to avoid it like the plague.

  i know people will say that they only need the bible to guide them in life...etc...but i contend that you cannot simply read the bible by yourself; at least without knowing where the philosophical principles contained within the bible come from.

  is this aversion of confusing philosophy with faith way over the head of most jws?

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  AudeSapere

  Philosophy discussions require critical thinking.

  Critical Thinking causes people to question the status quo.

  The fear for the org is that questioning will bring dissention and insubordination in the congregation.

  They cannot win in a fair fight so they either play dirty, or outlaw anything that will encourage questioning of any sort.

  -Aude Sapere (meaning: Dare to Know; Dare to Have Wisdom/Understanding; Dare to Think for Yourself)
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  Anyone from the Hudson Valley/Mid- Hudson valley (NY) Area?

  by Invetigator74 in

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  anyone from the hudson/ mid-hudson valley (ny) area?

  this area is probably considered wt country (wallkill, patterson and probably monroe) lol..

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  I'm originally from Bergen County (Northern NJ) near the NY State border along the Hudson. (Between GWB and TZB)

  -Aude.
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  My First Post on JWN- Hello!

  by Philadelphia Ponos in

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  i'll give some background information before i introduce myself.

  i faded from the organization three and a half years ago.

  i have no family members who are jws and haven't thought about this religion at all over the past three and half years.

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  My First Post on JWN- Hello!

  by Philadelphia Ponos in

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  i'll give some background information before i introduce myself.

  i faded from the organization three and a half years ago.

  i have no family members who are jws and haven't thought about this religion at all over the past three and half years.

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  AudeSapere

  It will be interesting to see what skill you are looking to acquire.

  But for the life of me I cannot think what skill that may be.

  Public Speaking = Toastmasters; Dale Carnegie; Community College

  Door-to-door Sales = Various Sales Companies; Political Campaign Volunteer

  Submission = Bondage/S&M Club; Date a Shrew

  Headship = Bondage/S&M Club; Date a Doormat

  Hall Cleaning = Janitorial Service

  Stay awake during mind-numbing talks = Local poetry readings

  Seriously. I cannot think of what skill that could possibly be that you could not get from any number of volunteer organizations in your area.

  I look forward to hearing more about the plan.

  -Aude.