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  Wow! I'm so glad I found you all.

  by curlers in

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  i was raised 3rd generation dub.

  my dad is an elder as his dad was and my brother and the other brother is ms on the way to elderhood.

  i'm df for 21 years when i was 20. the only credit i can give my parents is they're crazy would be whether they were catholic, buddist or atheist.

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  DanTheMan

  Isn't the internet great? Knowing I can chat with and have the support (albeit somewhat anonymous) of a growing community of ex-dubbers is way cool.
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  When You Were Devout, What Was The Most..

  by Englishman in

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  when you were a devout witness, what were the teachings that you couldnt accept, even though you believed most of the rest?.

  heres mine:.

  1. we know the bible is true, it proves itself true.

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  Lots of things that i accepted but didn't agree with. Like the WTBTS's explanation of the flood. There's been quite a bit of debate on this site about the flood, I personally think that it was a local event (bracing myself - )

  Also, the insistence that Jesus died on a stake instead of a cross. A classic case of the Society being contrary for the sake of being contrary.

  Of course, the blood issue. I think most Witnesses accept it as part of the package and just hope that it never becomes an issue for them.

  How about not toasting, or saying "bless you" to someone when they sneeze, or saying "good luck". All that was pretty weird. Dubs are superstitious in their avoidance of superstition.

  Many other things, those things came to mind first.
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  My Crazy Mother!

  by Ranchette in

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  here i thought i was going to get through the memorial season in peace this year.. how wrong i was!.

  was this supposed to be a memorial invitation?.

  yesterday i got an unexpected phone call from my mom.. i said hi and asked her how she was.. she said not very good.. i told her i was sorry to hear that and that i was concerned about her health problems and asked if she had had any tests done or gotten results.. she said no thats not why she wasnt doing well.. i could tell from the tone of her voice that this wasnt going to be pretty.. she told me that the reason she wasnt doing well is because the memorial was coming up,.

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  DanTheMan

  Pierced Angel -

  What? How could you miss out on the opportunity to be a dishcloth attired old pioneer woman? Offering magazines on such interesting subjects as "Help for Arthritis Sufferers" and "What is Your View of Cleanliness?" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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  My Crazy Mother!

  by Ranchette in

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  here i thought i was going to get through the memorial season in peace this year.. how wrong i was!.

  was this supposed to be a memorial invitation?.

  yesterday i got an unexpected phone call from my mom.. i said hi and asked her how she was.. she said not very good.. i told her i was sorry to hear that and that i was concerned about her health problems and asked if she had had any tests done or gotten results.. she said no thats not why she wasnt doing well.. i could tell from the tone of her voice that this wasnt going to be pretty.. she told me that the reason she wasnt doing well is because the memorial was coming up,.

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  Yikes! Makes me glad that I was the only person in my family stupid enought to become a dub.

  "Reports are heard of brothers selling their homes and property and planning to finish out the rest of their days in this old system in the pioneer service. Certainly this is a fine way to spend the short time remaining before the wicked world's end." - May 1974 Kingdom Ministry
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  diary

  by DanTheMan in

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  today was really rough.

  feelings of suicide.

  feelings of maybe i've made a big mistake in leaving.

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  Thanks everybody. Today was so much better. I've decided that the best thing to do is to take a vacation from thinking about religious matters, it just makes my head spin out of control too much. I am feeling 1000% more confident about my decision every day, the more I think about it, the more I wonder why the hell I stuck around as long as I did.
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  diary

  by DanTheMan in

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  today was really rough.

  feelings of suicide.

  feelings of maybe i've made a big mistake in leaving.

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  Today was really rough. Feelings of suicide. Feelings of maybe I've made a big mistake in leaving. Some reassurance/support would be nice right now. I feel like I need to be a part of a Christian organization, but I have no idea where to go. So many Christian groups in the U.S. lean towards fundamentalism and legalism, I never want to fall into that trap again. I want to find a church where the people are friendly, the message is positive, and I'm not asked to give my whole life to the movement. Another question - I never even started looking at the "apostate" stuff on the web until 2 weeks ago. To those of you who have been out for a while, is the voice growing louder, or has it been like this for a while?
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  Why Does God Allow...........

  by IslandWoman in

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  so often that question is asked.

  "why does god allow sickness?

  why does god allow hurricanes?

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  Agreed. The WT often points out that scientists cannot explain human aging. They bring this up to support their idea that man was originally created to live forever. They fail to mention that animals age too. Are animals sinners?
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  my dub experience

  by DanTheMan in

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  what an ignorant, needy, uncritical follower i was.

  my catholic mom couldn't refute what i was telling her about trinity & hellfire, so i thought i had found the truth.

  what i had found was a hell i wouldn't wish upon anyone.

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  I came in '93. What an ignorant, needy, uncritical follower I was. My Catholic mom couldn't refute what I was telling her about Trinity & Hellfire, so I thought I had found the truth. What I had found was a hell I wouldn't wish upon anyone. The unending avalanche of literature that sounds like it was all written by the same person. Constantly being told how I should feel and think. Paradise, paradise, paradise, blah blah blah. The faithful and discreet slave - ugh! How many of the memorial takers have any say whatsoever as to what is published? I'd say less than 1%. How many on the writing committee are of the "annointed"? It's such a joke. A classic example of WT mind-control - This is from the 1/15/00 WT - (in reference to old-timers)

  "How do they feel about having had to wait longer than they may have expected in order to see God's purposes fulfilled toward the earth? They have no regrets!"

  Translation - The writer of this article feels that they should have no regrets. And of course the Orwellian trained mind of an old-timer JW goes right along with it. To express any sort of dissatisfaction with the Borg is apostasy. I just got so sick of the whole phoney deal. But guilt and fear kept me in way longer than it should have. So glad to be free now, to live my own life and not have to worry about nosey old men prying into my affairs. I had always hoped I would find a nice JW girl to marry. I'm SO glad that never happened. My WT experience really is a blessing in a way. When you've been in a situation like that and you manage to escape, it sure makes you a wiser and more tolerant person. I feel like my life has just begun.
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  JWs- Evolutionary failures.

  by refiners fire in

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  i have the feeling this idea has been posted before by someone..however.... in evolutionary/ genetic terms the witnesses are a failing experiment.. they have discouraged large families, hence they are not winning in terms of numerological growth.. they have discouraged education.

  so they are not winning in terms of societal prestige/ success.. they have failed abysmally!

  !law of evolution says they must wither and become extinct.. the mormons are doing much better.. they breed like crazy.. education, im not too sure about...

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  Not only that, only the good-looking, socially adept ones who have large extended families that are dubs stick around. The rest just fade away, get DF'd or they DA. The last circuit assembly I attended, 1 baptism. I heard at several others there were none. It was amusing. I'm sure this summer there will be a number of ignorant 13-16 year olds lining up to take the plunge.
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  Being a single Ex JDub

  by Cammi in

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  is it just me, or is it very difficult to be a single ex?

  there are questions boyfriends ask about my family, why i dont have contact with them, and what did i do to gain their utter disfavor?

  why do i put up with what men tell me to believe?

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  I think that trust is a major issue for ex-dubs. Being in the borg is nothing short of being in an abusive relationship. Spiritual abuse is something that I think the psychiatric world needs to examine more. Have you ever talked with Marilyn on the 1-800-why1914 helpline? She is an ex-dub who is now a professional counselor. She helped me through my disassociation. Great lady! Certainly she had some fine, timely counsel. hahahaha