Posts like this make suicide sound nice.
I've been thinking about it a lot lately.
This world is a little too crazy for me.
a few years ago, i watched a tv program saying that nuclear bombs were missing from the former soviet union's arsenal.
they call them suitcase bombs, since they can fit in a suitcase or backpack.
today, i read an article that stated the same thing, but they are quit sure now that bin laden has a few of these in his possession.
Posts like this make suicide sound nice.
I've been thinking about it a lot lately.
This world is a little too crazy for me.
here is a good one brothers, a veritable masterpiece of twisted reasoning and convoluted thinking.
its from the wt of june 1, 1974 in an article "a question settled never to be raised again".
the article chiefly concerns the "test" at the end of the one thousand years.
Thanks RF, that was a good post.
Good old Freddy. They're like a rudderless ship without him and his zany theology.
only the strong survive .
i know my mother isn't.
and it has devastated the lives of my siblings to have left and still believe it is the truth.
That was a great post.
Often they are told by their abuser that others will not be as good to them or loving or kind as their abuser. That sounds familiar.
My last year in, I didn't give voice to specific doubts but the elders in my cong sensed that I wasn't "all the way" in the troof. One of them warned me that "the world" would eat me alive.
I'm doing fine. Yes the world is screwed up and I may die tomorrow, but at least I'm learning to live without the crutches of a cult religion. And I have met people who are far kinder to me than the Johos ever were.
jesus once mentioned that some people would be condemned by their own words.
i think you can also be condemned by your 'lack' of words.. the watchtower in times past would not miss a beat to condemn the catholic church for any unchristian infraction and highlight that in watchtower publications!
to my knowledge nothing at all has been said or printed what-so-ever about the catholic church's priest/pedophile problem to date!
When I became a JW in 1992-1993, there was still quite a bit of vitriol being spewed in the various WT publications about Babylon the Great and the Clergy Man of Lawlessness - False religion was still the big bad enemy they focused on.
But I guess they can only have one solid enemy to focus the dubs attention on, and "apostates" are it. I heard fewer and fewer references to 'false religion' and the like my last couple of years in. But the warnings about apostates and the internet seemed to never stop. Whereas "Babylon the Great" once was one of the strongest trigger words in the JW lexicon, I think that words like "internet" and "apostate" are much stronger emotional trigger words for current JWs.
If the current crisis in the Catholic Church had happened 20 or 30 years ago, I think it would have been a cover story in the WT. It would be the ultimate hypocrisy if they did something like that now.
here is an artical found on the credenda agenda (doug wilson/doug jones) site which should be good for conversion.
and a good topic to kick around as dispy bashing was a frequint past time in the rdisc board on yahoo groups.
the myth of "consistent literalism"jack van deventer.
never mind
Edited by - dantheman on 15 December 2002 11:1:28
there is a band called the new radicals.
they had a hit album about 4 or 5 years ago.
i bought the album while still a good little dub.
Yeah, i'm not talking about the JW angle, but any of these people who write their little songs and write their little poems about how f***ed up life is and how everyone is just screwed up and the whole world has gone to hell bother me.
I agree RT. A Metallica song popped into my head today that I used to listen to over and over in high school, a song to kill yourself by! For Whom The Bell Tolls
Ride the Lightning
Make his fight on the hill in the early day
Constant chill deep inside
Shouting gun, on they run through the endless grey
On they fight, for they are right, yes, but who's to say?
For a hill, men would kill, why? They do not know
Suffered wounds test their pride
Men of five, still alive through the raging glow
Gone insane from the pain that they surely know
For whom the bell tolls
Time marches on
For whom the bell tolls
Take a look to the sky just before you die
It is the last time he will
Blackened roar massive roar fills the crumbling sky
Shattered goal fills his soul with a ruthless cry
Stranger now, are his eyes, to this mystery
He hears the silence so loud
Crack of dawn, all is gone except the will to be
Now they see, what will be, blinded eyes to see
For whom the bell tolls
Time marches on
For whom the bell tolls
i resumed my smoking habit about a year before i left the borg.
i've been on and off of cigarettes since that time.
i'm trying to quit (again).
Ahhh...day 5 is here. I'm still getting the occasional craving, which surprises me because I've read that after 3 days it's all in your mind, but these feel like genuine withdrawal, not the psychological variety.
i resumed my smoking habit about a year before i left the borg.
i've been on and off of cigarettes since that time.
i'm trying to quit (again).
thanks grannie...er, mouthy
I'm on day 4, and I'm definitely starting to get that "non-smoker" feeling that I've experienced in the past when I've been able to stop. It feels good!!
Now if I could quit drinking so much coffee!
ate before the congergation book study, can create a real problem with the "friends".
once i remember my dad who was the conductor at the time setting at the front of the hall book study leading the opening prayer, when all at once there was this screech sound, it soundeed like a half dead cat being ran over.
it was my ever loving dad, cuttinng a cutie, and of cource he just pretended it was something outside the hall, but we all knew it was him that is me and my friends, so we sat there with our mouths coverd by our hands till i took to letting one rip from flexing myself from holding back laughter, so my dad says to me looking right at me: "do we need to grow up son"?
Funniest post I've read in a while, good job!
i resumed my smoking habit about a year before i left the borg.
i've been on and off of cigarettes since that time.
i'm trying to quit (again).
Ok, I'm almost through day 3, which seems to be the jinxed day that I keep relapsing on. But, I don't plan on leaving the house for the rest of the evening, and I don't have any cigs here, so I think I'm gonna make it. 3 months will be the next hurdle, March 11th. I need to mark that day so I can be mentally prepared knowing that I'm at a dangerous point. Coincidentally March 11th is right around my one year disassociation anniversary. Die evil borg!
Darkhorse, thanks for sharing that. I never really thought about being "proud" to have quit smoking. I tend to think more along the lines of, "you shouldn't have started to begin with you idiot!" Regardless of whether starting up again was a good decision, the article is correct in stating that smoking is a POWERFUL addiction, and those of us who have managed to quit have every right to look at that as an accomplishment.
Thanks to all for the continued encouragement.
I was reproved around April of 2001 for smoking, I had what little "theocratic privileges" I had taken away. It was the beginning of the end. I knew I was in trouble when I started up again 2 weeks later. I joined JW because I was looking for something to fix me, it worked for a while but then I got worse.