have you ever thought about the isrealites beginning to enter the promised land and how they then had to turn back and wander in the wilderness for 40 years?
have you ever wondered if there is a modern day parallel in our time?
perhaps 75 was our approach to that promised land that we then had to turn back from and "wander"... .
Hey Honesty, my hat's off to you. (my big top hat) I don't know how you are able to tolerate all of that delusional psycho-babble on those pro-JW sites. I don't think I could get through reading that guff for 5 minutes without soiling my pants.
So, thank you for posting those quotes. It is mildly entertaining to read, in a morbid sort of way. It's sort of like watching video footage of a car accident.
comments you will not hear at the 09-17-06 wt study (august 1, 2006, pages 26-29)(be happy).
(1 timothy 2:5) for there is one god, and one mediator between god and men, a man, christ jesus?.
despite his busy schedule, paul was always eager to do more in jehovah?s service.. notice how using an ot example leaves jesus out of the picture.. [picture on page 29] fear of god is a precious heritage that parents can pass on to their children.
Blondie:
As usual, an excellent thread. Thank you.
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The point of the matter is this: If the WTS could have been sued for disfellowshipping people (based upon the arguments above) it would have been utilized many years ago by very enterprising attorneys and perhaps, by the ACLU. If there was any way it could be done; an attorney would have found it.
anybody have the bethal list of banned musicians and songs.
i remember after my sister got baptised she said that the brother who dunked her under told her not to listen to a song, i think it was "new sensation" or something like that which was a popular song for the 80's period.
i remember a lot of songs being banned because of lyrics that had nothing to do with what they thought it had to do with.
Never heard of such a thing. Are you making this up or what?
No, he's not making it up. The list actually was created (according to my understanding) for the Bethel family. Eventually, the list was photo copied and made it's way into the hands of the rank & file. I specifically remember seeing a phot copy of it. ( I think it was around 1983 or so) This list was not intended to be distributed in the congregations; as it was a Bethel guideline for the Bethel family. But, individual Witnesses took it upon themselves to try to enforce this guideline in the congregations.
In fact, just as a side note, Bethel conducted a "sweep" of all of the music owned by Bethelites. I know this to be true, because I served at Bethel and remember several overseers telling us stories about it. (I'm not sure what year this was, it was much later on) All Bethelites were to collect all of their music and allow Bethel Elders or Home Overseers to look through it. Any music that was found to be "objectionable" had to be thrown out. Any Bethelite who refused to throw away such objectionable music had to leave Bethel.
Here's where it gets interesting. Many overseers in Bethel; in their conversations with family and friends back home, mentioned various groups and albums that were found to be "objectionable" by Bethel. What do you think happened next? Several elders and COs started flapping their jaws about this music and how it was not acceptable for any Witnesses. Again, they took guidelines intended for the Bethel family and tried to beat the rank & file over the head with it.
i got a call today from a member of the judicial committee asking if i would meet with them.
i asked them what for?
i was told it was about my asking questions about wts involvement with the un and bethel layoffs and my getting information from an apostate website.. i told them i have never attended their kh and had been inactive for more than 20 years and no longer accepted their authority and they no longer had a control over my mind or what i read or say or do.
Question can they disfellowship me in absentia? Like I give a rats ass. I somehow think my kids have something to do with this but they are in CA and I'm in Tx. Paranoia? I don't know.
Yes, I personally know people who were DFd in absentia. But, it's very odd that they are trying to contact you despite being inactive for 20 years. I have never heard of elders trying to form judicial committees for people who have been inactive for that long. Very strange.
anybody have the bethal list of banned musicians and songs.
i remember after my sister got baptised she said that the brother who dunked her under told her not to listen to a song, i think it was "new sensation" or something like that which was a popular song for the 80's period.
i remember a lot of songs being banned because of lyrics that had nothing to do with what they thought it had to do with.
I remember when I was a little kid, there was a certain Earth Wind & Fire album that was a "no-no". From what I remember, it didn't have anything to do with lyrics, but had to do with the album cover. The album cover had some of the ancient Egyptian religious sculptures on it.
think about this one: the bible says one day satan, the father of all evils, will be destroyed and by extension all the sufferings of the spiritual creatures and physical creatures.
i know the jw's teach that jehovah is allowing evil in order to prove a moral point that he is the only one who can effectively rule this reality.
however, imagine a paradise on earth billions of years after the destruction of evil.
Once the members of the 144,000 reach immortality; what's to stop any of them from giving Johober the finger, and starting up their own celestial government in some other galaxy?
so my step-father sent me an e-mail that was circulating amongst the dubs with an article about the conversion of the furman building into condos.
he sent it to me with something like, "look what they're doing to the furman building".
the article said that wts sold the building in 2004(?
Yeah, I remember reading an article about this transaction in one of the New York city online newspapers. The building developer is going to build luxury apartments inside. The apartments that face the East River with a skyline view are expected to fetch up to $1 million a piece.
You would think that with the profit the WTS made on this transaction; they could have been able to afford printing newly revised Revelation books instead of holding a big cut and paste party.
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it beats spending $100.00 an hour in a nut doctor's.
office.
Google the words ex-JW meetup. You will surely find links to meetups in Florida. I personally have seen meetups in just about every state when I have used this search.
i would appreciate contact information.
i tried to goggle the name but nothing.
perhaps i got the wrong name.
Americans United For the Separation of Church & State
