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  as a jw..did you ever have a REAL theological discussion with anyone?

  by candidlynuts in

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  this came up in a conversation with a non witness friend lately.

  he said its like i thought i was having theological discussions all the time but from what he could tell...i would go to the door with prearranged comments, which would illicit one of a few comments and my response would be as programmed as the initial comments.

  i'm no brainy person.. and freely admit i'm not the sharpest tool in the shed.

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  clovis

  I recently had a discussion with my JW sister who I know has her share of doubts. She can't get past the blind faith reasoning. She and her Elder husband have been crapped on so many time by the goody two shoes type JW's but always say it's people not Jehovah who are imperfect. They really don't want to dicuss anything because it brings up too many questions they can't answer.

  I don't push it as they are pretty laid back. Both my older sister and I are DF'd and they still talk with us and we stay at each others places when in town. They are 2 of the best people there are but won't question a thing about the org. It frustrates me to no end but I just try to be calm and reason with them.
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  Guantanamo Bay Suicides - a PR Move

  by eyeslice in

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  quote from bbc website .

  a top us official has described the suicides of three detainees at the us base at guantanamo bay, cuba, as a "good pr move to draw attention".

  colleen graffy told the bbc the deaths were part of a strategy and "a tactic to further the jihadi cause", but taking their own lives was unnecessary.

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  How come if someone wants to keep murderous lunatics locked up we suddenly are Bush supporters? I hate Bush and his corrupt, immoral regime. Bush & co. has nothing to do with common sense telling a person that these Muslim fanatics are dangerous and if dead the world would be much better off. I respect and support our troops and am sad they are fighting this stuipid war.

  I remember the Beruit bombings, the 1st. Trade center attack, and countless other suicide bombing and attacks way before anyone knew Ol Dubya was around. These people hate everything we hold dear. They treat women like dogs, brain wash their kids, actually live to die in some f--ked up jihad. You'll be kissing the ground 3 times a day and showering once a year if they ever control the world, count on it all the way!

  If you think we should let these idiots loose, agree to live with them or at least in their fine country. If not, your really just blowing hot air and no one is impressed with your liberal goody two shoes hype.
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  Guantanamo Bay Suicides - a PR Move

  by eyeslice in

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  quote from bbc website .

  a top us official has described the suicides of three detainees at the us base at guantanamo bay, cuba, as a "good pr move to draw attention".

  colleen graffy told the bbc the deaths were part of a strategy and "a tactic to further the jihadi cause", but taking their own lives was unnecessary.

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  clovis

  You really think anyone gives a damn about a bunch of Gitmo prisoners? Put a hanging rope in each cell. Those bastards would slit your throat and brag about it right after you broke them out of prison. Get a better cause. They hate anything in the west unconditionally, no thought process involved. Just ask them. Hell, they can't even take a little cartoon without riots and killing people. How can you care about idiots who don't value life?

  You think I'm a racist, hatemonger. Actually I am just a realist, and no ones going to solve the messed up crap over there so we should shit or get off the pot.
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  OK, OK, I'm doin it!!!! I need questions!

  by WLG in

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  i'm going to the meeting on sunday, i'm over 1000 miles away from anyone who knows me and i have a goattee, what do i do?

  i'm planning to be a naive "interested one" with hard questions.

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  clovis

  I agree with Frog. go have some fun. Get laid or drunk or both! Leave em alone because it's not worth the trouble.
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  help! family mbr reading my 3 yr old My Book of Bible Stories

  by limbogirl in

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  my soon to be three year old son asked me yesterday if i was dying.

  i was shocked that he knew the word 'dying' and asked where he heard it.

  he proceeded to tell me that his aunt (a jw) read him a story about jesus twiste (christ) and jesus was dying.

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  In a nice , calm voice, inform your SIL that you will beat her ass to a stump if she dares to read that to your son. Also threaten her with legal action. She doesn't care about your son, she's f%#*!$g with you.
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  door to door

  by clovis in

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  subject: i'll bet!!

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  Subject: I'll Bet!!!
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  The need for educated proffesonals - more WT hypocrisy?

  by jambon1 in

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  one thing that always annoyed me when i was in the org was the policy on education.

  i personaly am not college educated, i was`nt raised as a jw.

  however, i have always appreciated the services provided by those who have had a college/university education.

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  I cannot understand why people like Dozi are even on this site?! You are, just by reading these comments associating yourself with "apostate" views. This is strictly forbidden by the WBTS, let alone commenting on topics yourself. So now that your one of us I will go on to say that the WBTS definately dicouraged myself and those I grew up with in regards to higher education. I had a near perfect grade in HS and could have picked any college in the state. No, dumb me listened to all the aforementioned rehtoric and happily waited for armegeddon. Anyone remember the talk ( Will You be Alive in 75?)? So Dozi you are wrong and there are thousands of us to bring to to task for your condensending view. I hope I haven't misspelled any words as I am a lowly bricklayer with a bad back and no new system to fix it. Join us or leave, don't lurk like a coward.
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  Have you seen any of the JW's elders that DF'd or DA'd you and or now DF'd?

  by booker-t in

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  it is funny but i love that old expression "karma is the best payback".

  i happened to see one of those super arognant elders that was the judicial committee that put me on "private reproof" years ago when i was a "devout" jw and fell into unscriptual conduct.

  they literally had me trembling back there in the back of the kh wondering if i was going to be disfellowshipped or put on public reproof.

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  clovis

  You know sometimes nothing beats a good old ass kicking!
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  12 years ago today

  by free2beme in

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  i stood on that witness stage and got married.

  the talk was long and boring, and meant to convert all of our non-witness relatives.

  the music was pre picked to make sure it was clean enough for a witness gathering, and the drive to our honeymoon location was as fast as the car could go ... wonder why?

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  clovis

  Nice it worked out for you two. Congradulations and good luck!
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  I am hurt, my wife had a miscarriage and still my family didn't contact me

  by jwfacts in

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  two weeks ago my wife had a miscarriage at 11 weeks.

  it is very sad as it was to be my first child and my wife is already 39. what hurt the most though is that none of my immediate family contacted me.

  i was d/f in january and did not expect to hear regularly from my parents and sister.

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  clovis

  I'm sorry and sad at the same time. The fact it upsets you shows you are a good person who would never do the same. Good luck and rise above it.