Posts by lowden

Karl, why would you want to go man?? It would reeeally creep me out, especially as that was my convention. Shivvers down ma spine! I'd probably end up slammin' someone, sooo many double-lifers i know that go there.

Peace

Lowden

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Say something horrible.............but true about your kids ..............

by vitty in

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friends

although, the complaints may be valid and sad.

many posters here have vented about their wicked parents.. i think its time we parents have a post dedicated to saying something horrid about our kids.

it maybe something you have wanted to say about them that was in the past or happening now.

lowden

Hey L2BW, you seem to be a very loving mother and as challenged and exhausted as your youngest makes you feel, your love will conquer. My eldest son 'self-harmed' for a brief period and although he wasn't in need of professional counselling it still distressed his mother and i. Keep on keeping on.

Peace

Lowden

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Are Apostates "Obsessed" with Jehovah's Witnesses?

by booker-t in

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i was talking with my friend the other day and he was telling me that he was going to several kh to debate with jw's elders to look in their libraries and show jw's the "cover ups" from their own books etc; this man has "no life" except debating with jw's.

i feel enough is enough!

when are apostates going to just let it go?

lowden

Well your friend is definitely obsessed, his affectation is unnatural. But then again it's only the same type of obsessive behaviour that many display as JWs, he's just carried it over to the 'other side' so to speak. As for apostates in general, i do think there's a whiff of obsession with some and i don't see how they will ever 'put it to bed'. It's the 'conspiracy theory' mentality.

Peace

Lowden

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Say something horrible.............but true about your kids ..............

by vitty in

jw
friends

although, the complaints may be valid and sad.

many posters here have vented about their wicked parents.. i think its time we parents have a post dedicated to saying something horrid about our kids.

it maybe something you have wanted to say about them that was in the past or happening now.

lowden

Balsam

I presume you're refering to my post in your opening comments. If you read what i wrote then you will see that i wasn't as dogmatic as you infer.

Whatever you say, our children are largely (but not totally) a reflection of us as parents and our methods of parenting.

As i alluded to previously i think parents all too often blame 'personality disorders' on their childrens' bad behaviour.

That said, i agree that bad associations can spoil our kids too, but society and the media paints a glamourous picture of rebellion. But even then we have a responsibility to instill in them the sort of people to hang with. It all starts at a very early age.

Peace

Lowden

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Say something horrible.............but true about your kids ..............

by vitty in

jw
friends

although, the complaints may be valid and sad.

many posters here have vented about their wicked parents.. i think its time we parents have a post dedicated to saying something horrid about our kids.

it maybe something you have wanted to say about them that was in the past or happening now.

lowden

Gill

Agreed. Personality Disorders are a definite exception to the rule. That said, i wonder how often that moniker is appied to cases where the parents have just simply lost control and given up on a particularly unruly child. Personality traits are almost definitely partly genetic IMO but i think it's a rarity where the parent has little or no control over how their kids turn out. My middle son was a TOTAL b#stard up until about 3 years old, wouldn't let me hold him properly for almost all of that time, only his mum could. I think he would have been diagnosed with ADHD today, which is another contraversial subject for a future thread maybe.

Peace

Lowden

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BIG Moral Crisis.....

by justsomedude in

(if anything i write below is horrible offensive to anyone, please do me a favor and just ignore this post and dont tell me what rotten person i am and im going to hell or some such thing)

over the last few years ive had to change a great many views that ive previously been very emphatic about.

there are a number of things that are currently running through my head, the short list looks like this.

lowden

In my experience, when feeling get involved on both sides you've got to be an extremely strong character to stop it going any further. If you carryon then one day the shit WILL hit the fan, no doubt about that! Question is, do you want to put up with it all and can you REALLY trust a woman that was/is willing to decieve the man she's supposed to love, because she may well do it back to you one day. I've been in a very similar situation and it's the hardest thing in the world to sort out. By the way you're not a bad person and that is evidenced by your toiling conscience, but rest assured if you end up in a similar situation with her again.....you WILL screw her,take it from me. Carefully does it!

Peace

Lowden

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Say something horrible.............but true about your kids ..............

by vitty in

jw
friends

although, the complaints may be valid and sad.

many posters here have vented about their wicked parents.. i think its time we parents have a post dedicated to saying something horrid about our kids.

it maybe something you have wanted to say about them that was in the past or happening now.

lowden

I'm not really up for saying anything bad about my kids because they're just kids ( 14, 16, 18), growing up and learning, very often by their mistakes like we parents did as kids. The bad traits they have are very often learned from us parents, so be careful what you say! Most teens are selfish and inward facing. Yes they can be a right royal pain in the arse, but so were most of us. There's a saying over here in Britain (maybe elsewhere too) that 'Mothers Make Male-Chauvanist Pigs'. I happen to think that's true. Molly coddling our kids and constantly running after them clearing up their shit makes them ungrateful sods! It just happens that it's usually mothers that do the running around. Fathers can contribute negativity too though, like being an authoritarian bully. Whatever you say, our children are largely (but not totally) a reflection of us as parents and our methods of parenting. By the way, teenagers in my experience respond to being treated like freinds and adults, rather than children. Just my thoughts.

Peace

Lowden

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The Bribe of Heaven and The Threat of Hell.

by Blueblades in

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friends

which is it that cause you to believe that either teaching from the bible is truly the truth.

is the desire to want to go to heaven the reason you believe what you believe, or is it the fear and threat of hell that makes you walk the line so to speak.. i don't believe that god needs to or has ever bribed or threathened anyone with 'do this or else.

' i believe what is written about god in the bible are the words of men.

lowden

Hello Blueblades

IMO, if god suddenly took away the 'carrot' of heaven and said, 'I'm not doing this anymore i've changed my mind, it's just me, jesus and a few angels now...that's it! You're all gonna just die when you die and that's it'!!

Well i don't think anyone, (or very few) would serve god then! I really do believe that people that say otherwise are in denial. Heaven is just a big fat carrot. People become JWs for one thing and one thing only and that's the PARADISE, it's the point of sale and the gratification of ones own selfish ideal. Hell is 'the BIG STICK' that religious leaders hit us with.

Peace

Lowden

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Green Wing

by Caedes in

anybody else watch green wing?

there are some really great actors in it and some really wierd stuff going on.

funniest thing on tv at the moment and i'm in love with the female doctor, the one with the short dark hair and big nose.

lowden

With ya on this Caedes

Green Wing is an absolute comedy gem, although i could imagine some people not getting its surreal whackiness. Bought the DVD of the first series recently. Pure joy!

Peace

Lowden