Posts by betterdaze

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Constructive feedback for AAWA leadership (IMHO)

by besty in

1 - reconsider your existence - there might be a reason why the most effective resources to date have been solo efforts.

2 - recognize that even well-intentioned organizations will firstly seek self-preservation.

3 - be aware that egos and emotional stupidity have torn apart much grander edifices than aawa.

betterdaze

These are in no way AAWA's official responses.

So why post them?

They are only how I would answer for the sake of discussion.

It's funny how Simon's suggested FAQs don't even address Facebook, but Tylin and another AWAA member here keep obfuscating with useless and often contradictory Facebook tutorials for days on end.

Really, enough about Facebook. It's not a legitimate platform to carry out AWAA's stated mission. End of. Period.

Facebook didn't "out" any faders, zealous AWAA members did. No tweaking of settings can fix their horrendous jackass response (or non-response). The Facebook blame-shifting only makes them look worse for it.

There are hundreds of ExJW Facebook Groups and Pages. Each one of them is subjected to the same security issues.

Blah blah blah Facebook blah blah blah. Hundreds of other groups and pages are not the problem. Somebody stick a fork in that dead horse, because it's DONE.

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Can one person make a difference? Need your help please.

by apocalypse in

i am feeling a bit out of sorts & i need to bounce this off the board.. do some of you remember the coming out of the un scandal back when?.

have you seen the letter from the un in c of c?.

i am sitting here with that original letter in my hand.. the day before the date on this letter, i had heard about the watchtower involvement on hourglass2.

betterdaze

Was my effort with the UN so meaningless? Did it not matter. Does it not count?

Of course it counts! I cannot understand why you think it wouldn't. You oiled the wheels that helped ME and many others OUT. My belated thanks!

I want to share something. A few years back, people here were kvetching about how that letter was eventually deleted from the UN website. Conspiracy theories about how the Watchtower somehow shut it down. AS IF. As if they had the power to censor the UN!

Well, I came to know an individual here in the NYC area whose claim to fame is programming the United Nations website. I just had to ask, and I made a fool of myself. He of course explained that it's a HUGE network of websites, multi-lingual, and they can't possibly archive every piece of correspondence forever to eternity. And here I was, about to ask him, "Hey mister, about that letter, could you put it back up?"

apocalypse, Please know that letter sent shockwaves throughout the earth and will continue to do so, helping JWs learn the truth about "The Truth" whether the UN continues to host it or not. And to everyone else: Please don't blame the webmasters at the UN, nobody at the WT cajoled or controlled them to take it down, it was just routine maintenance.

I am thrilled that you still have the original. Please guard it well.

Can one make a difference?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKPWzLgvgW4

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Public Apology Nathan Natas

by Simon in

i'd like to offer a public apology to nathan natas for making a wrong decision when i deleted him.. i allowed a combination of previous issues we'd had and input from other forum members to bias my decision which lead me to what i now, in hindsight, believe to have been a mistake.. whether you want to come back and post here or not i wanted to at least say sorry and will reactivate your account..

betterdaze

… And there was much happification throughout the land(s).

Thank you, Simon. Cheers to Nathan Natas.

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The Advocates for Awareness of Watchtower Abuses (AAWA) [WARNING]

by Simon in

uncensored discussions and information for anyone interested in the advocates for awareness of watchtower abuses or 'aawa' http://aawa.co/ (previously known as "the association of anti-watchtower activists http://jwactivists.org/) and how it's handled and responded to privacy issues and put people at risk:.

aawa is here!!

(the association of anti-watchtower activists)an invitation to a new effort- aawawhy when i logged onto aawa did it go to facebook ?in regards to aawaaawa - every generation needs a new revolution - thomas jeffersonnotice how the introduction of the aawa has brought out the loonies lately?will aawa become another cult?

betterdaze

Can't they get their own website?

They have one. And they could very easily set up a "members only" PRIVATE message board there for volunteers, advisors etc. to communicate.

But they value attention-whoring over privacy, that much has become clear. The emotional approach over the rational one, with typical results.

Ego.

NPD.

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Is AAWA a non profit? Or is the application still in consideration?

by wha happened? in

i've heard both.

i dunno.

which one is it?.

betterdaze

Thanks. That would indicate the Treasurer, no? The Treasurer who perjured himself in the Articles of Incorporation to cover for an anonymous Interwebz character from a former communist nation pretending to live in Arizona.

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Is AAWA a non profit? Or is the application still in consideration?

by wha happened? in

i've heard both.

i dunno.

which one is it?.

betterdaze

wha happened, would you mind telling us what name was on the receipt?

Was it AWAA the corporate entity or was it their Treasurer or someone else?

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Is AAWA a non profit? Or is the application still in consideration?

by wha happened? in

i've heard both.

i dunno.

which one is it?.

betterdaze

Anyone can use PayPal without being a non-profit to ask for donations.

Yes, but there's a catch for nonprofits. From PayPal:

Note: This button is intended for fundraising. If you are not raising money for a cause, please choose another option. Nonprofits must verify their status to withdraw donations they receive. Users that are not verified nonprofits must demonstrate how their donations will be used, once they raise more than $10,000.

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Is AAWA a non profit? Or is the application still in consideration?

by wha happened? in

i've heard both.

i dunno.

which one is it?.

betterdaze

So then, how can they have a PayPal Donation button on every page of their website?

Pretty sure that PayPal requires proof of 501c3 to obtain nonprofit status (lower fees) and use their Donate button (as opposed to Buy Now or Subscribe).

Edited to add: Someone please correct me if I'm wrong... I have other questions about the "donation arrangement" but I'll hold them in check, for now.

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Problems with the "Bogus AWAA Fan Page"..

by OUTLAW in

good afternoon jwn... .

i`ve spent the morning and part of my afternoon... getting to the bottom of... why names were added to the awaa fan page... it`s a dangerous thing to happen in our world... faders can be outed,we can lose,family,friends... the results can be an absolute disaster... .

aawa "did not" create the facebook awaa fan page.

betterdaze

wha happened that is a good question! They already have a website: jwactivists.org

They should have just set up a private message board there. 100% Voluntary opt-in, password protected, some open forums and others separated for each committee. Different levels of privileges assigned to each enduser.

It's not rocket science. We were doing this in the corporate world with dial-up intranets in the early-to-mid 1990's.

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I FOUND RELIGION! Post your favorite spiritual/hymnal.

by watson in

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friends

betterdaze

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qdKZBXMX5E