Roybatty......I sent you some hate mail. Now quit whining.
Posts by Dawn
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Rx My First Hate Mail today. I think I upset sum1
by xjw_b12 ini received an angry email this afternoon, from someone who took exception to my / our stand on leaving the org, and suggested the current publicity re the child abuse, was overblown and exaggerated.. this person could only have taken my email address from this board.. i have a couple of questions for the more seasoned posters here.. 1. has anyone else rx a letter from a j.a.
on a verizon mail service discussing what i mentioned above?
i am trying to determine whether ja was spamming, or am i the only lucky one?.
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(((Joy2Bfree))), I'm sorry
by WildTurkey inhey joy, im very sorry for the pain you are going through, because the lose of your father.
i also know you had to deal with the borg world again and i know that was hard to deal with.
i really dont have the words just want you to know i care.
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Dawn
((((((Joy2Bfree))))))
I lost my father (an elder) a little over a year ago, and my brother (a ministerial servant) a few months ago - the loss is hard enough without having to deal with the JW issues also! I feel for you.
If you need someone to talk to feel free to e-mail me: [email protected]
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Families torn apart by Religion
by JH indo you know of any other religions that tear families apart like the j.w's?
jesus said that families would be torn apart because of his name.
does this make them the true religion because they are tearing families apart, like jesus said they would?
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Dawn
There are many instances in history where religion tore families apart. The Catholics vs. Protestants, a jew who becomes a Christian may be shunned by his family. There are also circumstances that had nothing to do with religion - the civil war for example.
Edited to add: If you read Jesus' remarks in context - I believe he was speaking to the Jews at that time - a Jew who accepted Jesus as the messiah may be in combat with the rest of his family who did not believe Jesus was the messiah.
Edited by - Dawn on 23 January 2003 13:17:36
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orgin of my name
by jesusstolemyhotrod ini have only been an active member for a couple of days here, or a newbie as we are affectionatley called.
since i have been here though, on a few occasions, i have been asked about my choice of nicname and what it means or why i chose it.
since there is a reason behind it, and in my mind it stands for something, i thought i would share it's orgins with you all.
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Dawn
If I may suggest something however, is to remember that Jesus didn't so much "steal" your youth; it was the Watchtower Society and the idiots that run it.
Exactly!!
However - I can completely relate to Jesusstolemyhotrod (man that's a long one to type out ). When I was booted out for the SECOND time I was so completely disillusioned with God, religion, everything. I summed up all organized religion in the same way and decided that it, and God, had nothing to offer me - they were all scams.
I kept that belief for about 12 years, until I met some people who didn't fit the pattern I had based my decision on. They weren't anything like the dubs. They didn't insist that I attend any particular church, were not self-righteous, and they were very loving and charitable to people. They simply shared their testimony with me and encouraged me to read the bible for myself and make my own decision - they continued to be my friend but did not "push" religion on me in any way. After some time of studying the bible on my own, and really researching it I realized that organized religion is just manmade, and it is full of errors. It is separate from God. Religion is man's attempt to reach God - but we don't need it to be with him. God came down to earth to show us the way - we can have a relationship with him without being a member of any religion. I now attend a non-denominational church in my area because I enjoy the worship services and have made a lot of friends there with the same beliefs as I - but I don't believe that this CHURCH is GOD, and I don't HAVE to be a member or follow any particular set of manmade rules to have a relationship with God. To me, church is just a tool that I use to share in worship and to accomplish things in the community (charity events, etc).
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Dawn
Mine has my Outlook calendar and "to-do" list (I use Active Desktop)........sorry.....don't want ya'll to see where I am for the rest of the month - but here's my schedule for this week.....
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One question that would make you think....
by Dawn inno jw's have been to my door for years because they all know where i live - my mom drives by with her "car group" and points out our house, even stops to use the potty or get a pop.
silly - i know, but mom doesn't seem to care about the shunning thing (thank goodness).. anyways - hubby and i have bought a new house and will be moving out of this congregation's area soon.
it's a brand new house in a new area so i'm sure it'll get worked fairly quickly (new blood on the block).
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Dawn
Thanks all - you gave me some great ideas!!
Funny how I use to cringe at the thought of "service" - now I can't wait (ha ha)
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One question that would make you think....
by Dawn inno jw's have been to my door for years because they all know where i live - my mom drives by with her "car group" and points out our house, even stops to use the potty or get a pop.
silly - i know, but mom doesn't seem to care about the shunning thing (thank goodness).. anyways - hubby and i have bought a new house and will be moving out of this congregation's area soon.
it's a brand new house in a new area so i'm sure it'll get worked fairly quickly (new blood on the block).
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Dawn
Hi all:
No JW's have been to my door for YEARS because they all know where I live - my mom drives by with her "car group" and points out our house, even stops to use the potty or get a pop. Silly - I know, but Mom doesn't seem to care about the shunning thing (thank goodness).
Anyways - hubby and I have bought a new house and will be moving out of this congregation's area soon. It's a brand new house in a new area so I'm sure it'll get worked fairly quickly (new blood on the block). So I want to be prepared for the first visit.
Keeping in mind that my goal is not to "beat up" on those that come to the door - I honestly want to give them something to think about and in a way that does not put them on the defense. With this in mind - what one bible question would have made you (or did make you) stop and think. What could I ask them that they wouldn't have a prepared answer for - that they could not answer and stay within their doctrine? I have thought about bringing up the fact that they didn't believe Jesus had taken the throne in 1914 until 1919 - but I think they would just feel on the defense with that one.
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My story...
by christopherceo inokay, i've chatted with several of you and i thought it was time to tell my story.
it all began during the gulf war early in january 1991. i was concerned about the war becoming the end of the world and naturally, because of my lifestyle, i began asking myself what i intended to do with my life.
a pioneer sister worked in the office where i worked, i knew she was a witness and studied the bible so i asked her opinion on what was happening.
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Dawn
(((((Chris)))))
I believe you will find this place to help in your healing - knowing that others understand and that YOU are not at fault really helps.
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Jesus died on a stake?
by SwedishChef inyou've got to love the watchtower.
they must think that the general population has no bible available to it.
while scrolling through a list of their beliefs on the official site, there was one that really caught my eye because of its sheer ludicrousness.
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Dawn
The Bible says Jesus was crusified. Youd think that would be enough
On no no no - see, the idea confuse people with useless details, presented as fact, keeping attention away from the real purpose and truth.
I work in the legal field - defense attys use this tactic a lot when they don't have a good case. Sad thing is that it works sometimes - both in the court room and in the religious arena. If only people could weed out the sh*t (literally).
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Making peace with God...
by Pronger ini was disfellowshipped in 1996 for "fornication".
this disfellowshipping literally crushed me as i felt i was fully repentant at the time.
i was the one who approached the elders to confess.
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Dawn
What a great post Pronger-Matt!! We have something in common - it was through a friend's funeral that I first realized God was reaching out to me.
I look forward to reading more of your posts! I bet that you will see God reaching out to you again soon - now that you have recognized it.