i am sorry i do not post on this forum often but i need your help!
i just had someone register on my forum and they claim they are assigned to the watchtower farm.
they gave this web site address:.
I also looked up driving directions from Jamaica, NY to Patterson, NY. I find this whole thing questionable since this is what I came up with:
| Distance: | 65.7 miles | Approximate Travel Time: | 1 hour 35 mins |
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People that are serving at the Watchtower Farms usually live there don't they? I mean for an old couple to have to travel over 3 hours a day to volunteer could not make it on the pittance that the society gives, right?
i am sorry i do not post on this forum often but i need your help!
i just had someone register on my forum and they claim they are assigned to the watchtower farm.
they gave this web site address:.
I found this information on whois.com:
Domain ID:D107031563-LROR
Domain Name:WATCHTOWERFARM.ORG
Created On:28-Jul-2005 16:26:10 UTC
Last Updated On:28-Jul-2005 16:26:12 UTC
Expiration Date:28-Jul-2006 16:26:10 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:Tucows Inc. (R11-LROR)
Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED
Status:CLIENT UPDATE PROHIBITED
Status:TRANSFER PROHIBITED
Registrant ID:tutSKFd6DwuT5Dwq
Registrant Name:Margaret Runge
Registrant Organization:Runge, Margaret
Registrant Street1:175-06 Devonshire Road
Registrant Street2:Apartment 2G
Registrant Street3:
Registrant City:JAMAICA
Registrant State/Province:NY
Registrant Postal Code:11432
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:+1.3478138005Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX:
Registrant FAX Ext.:
Registrant Email:[email protected] Admin ID:tutSKFd6DwuT5Dwq
Admin Name:Margaret Runge
Admin Organization:Runge, Margaret
Admin Street1:175-06 Devonshire Road
Admin Street2:Apartment 2G
Admin Street3:
Admin City:JAMAICA
Admin State/Province:NY
Admin Postal Code:11432
Admin Country:US
Admin Phone:+1.3478138005
Admin Phone Ext.:
Admin FAX:
Admin FAX Ext.:
Admin Email:[email protected]
Tech ID:tuBvxaXHAkFbQoyO
Tech Name:Domain Tech
Tech Organization:Prostores
Tech Street1:3250 W. Commercial Blvd.
Tech Street2:Suite 200
Tech Street3:
Tech City:Ft. Lauderdale
Tech State/Province:FL
Tech Postal Code:33309
Tech Country:US
Tech Phone:+1.9543348000
Tech Phone Ext.:
Tech FAX:
Tech FAX Ext.:
Tech Email:[email protected]
Name Server:DNS1.PROSTORES.COM
Name Server:DNS2.PROSTORES.COM
Name Server:DNS3.PROSTORES.COM
Can anyone find out anything from this information?
consider this - job, blameless and upright actually celebrated birthdays with his family.. according to the new world translation job 1:4,5 says this - .
4 and his sons went and held a banquet at the house of each one on his own day; and they sent and invited their three sisters to eat and drink with them.
5 and it would occur that when the banquet days had gone round the circuit, job would send and sanctify them; and he got up early in the morning and offered up burnt sacrifices according to the number of all of them; for, said job, maybe my sons have sinned and have cursed god in their heart.
Years ago I lived in Greece for 6 months and I found it interesting that they have 2 days a year for people to celebrate. They even get these days off work, if I remember correctly. One was their "Name Day". This one I found odd. Let's say today is Mary's Day. Every Mary gets that day off work. The other one was their "His Day" (I think that is what they called it) of honor. Same traditions as with "Name Day".
I remember, due to language barriers, not quite understanding the second one. It was explained to me that it was someone's birthday. It was explained that this went back in history as far as anyone could remember.
What I find interesting is that in the Bible there is Hebrew and Greek. Well, this tradition was in Greece. Couldn't it stand to reason that this has always been the tradition?
LOL about the separated at birth thing. But seriously!!!...this freaks me out when I see this. I am looking into my own eyes. Freaky!!!
I like it. But then again, in the smaller version (ie. your avatar at the side of your post's) the woman on the right looks just like me! Not kidding. That woman's eyes and bone structure is me to a T!
my hero is isaac asimov because he believed that mankind could eventually live in harmony with nature and itself through the exercise of logic and the action of not taking from the world more than was needed.
My hubby!
He might be surprised to find me saying that....especially publicly.
This man that I married may, to others, seem like a distant man (he is very quiet) but he is ALWAYS there for me. I am not the easiest person in the world to live with but this man of mine has always been there for me and has always listened (listens) to me. He has never been a witness yet he patiently listens to me when I am going through a tough time with memories. He may not totally understand the pain I feel at times but he has always been there for me.
Hubby! I love ya hon!
my daughter renee wishes to practice wicca, as she feels it is where she needs to be spiritually.
this is serious business for herit is not a whim, or passing fancy.
she did some internet research and began observing some of the things she found: phases of the moon, burning certain candles for various situations and so forth.
We all need a spiritual center, even an atheist, many of whom confuse spirituality with God.
Quentin, I couldn't agree with you more. I remember years ago talking to my Psychologist and telling him that I felt I was not religious but I was a spriritual person. He seemed surprised at that. I feel that deep inner feelings about 'whatever' it might be that makes us feel good...whether it be Gawd, nature... or whatever, to me, can make us spiritual. We have to find happiness in what we do in life to feel at peace in our lives.
People think of being spiritual as having to do with Gawd or religion. I have not felt this was a necessary component, so I looked up the word spiritual on dictionary.com. (One of my fav sites, BTW). Here is what it says:
spir·i·tu·al ( P ) Pronunciation Key (sp
adj.
Without REALLY knowing what the word spiritual meant I KNEW in my heart it had more to do with what you felt inside rather than it having to do with a religion or Gawd. I have equated being spiritual with the #2 explanation above:
"Of, concerned with, or affecting the soul."
Good luck to your daughter in her endeaver to find her own spirituality. Kudo's to you for publicly admitting that you did wrong in the past. It takes a great person to be able to admit it, not just privately... but to do it publicly speaks volumes about you and your love for your daughter.
i would like to write a book on the experiences of people who have left jw's.
this is my plan.
i would like to be able to quote people's experiences (under their own names or online names).
There is some misunderstanding as to my intent, so this is to explain a little further. I definitely will not use posts from this forum or any other - what I would like is to see if there is any interest in contributing to this effort, and if there is, I would then obtain the experiences from the individual directly, with their written permission only, for this undertaking.
I understand that as soon as someone writes anything, whether online or off, it is copyright to that individual. Permission must be provided to use those writings (or other material) in other than their original format.
So rest assured that as far as I am concerned, anything written on this forum is for this forum only.
Thank you for your responses and for giving me the opportunity to make the clarification.
i know what "apostate" means to most of the world.
i am interested in the jw perspective.
i grew up a jw, but was never baptised.
This is the definition I get,...both going to my own hard copy dictionary and http://www.dictionary.com :
a·pos·ta·sy ( P ) Pronunciation Key (
n. pl. a·pos·ta·sies
As I stated in a recent thread. A person is an apostate depending upon their own individual circumstances.
For example...if a person went along with this crap because they were children but never truly believed and they only went with 'the program' to appease a parent...THEY ARE NOT APOSTATE.
If however, at some point they truly believed and left....they would then, technically be apostate.
If you think about it 70-80% of JW's are apostate because they have left their former beliefs to be sucked into this cult.
i would like to write a book on the experiences of people who have left jw's.
this is my plan.
i would like to be able to quote people's experiences (under their own names or online names).
I would like to write a book on the experiences of people who have left JW's. This is my plan. I would like to be able to quote people's experiences (under their own names or online names). Once these experiences are quoted I plan on finding a Psychiatrist/Psychologist who can go over these experiences and give an overall view of the destructive actions of JW's.
What say ye? (Always wanted to say that, LOL) Is anyone out there willing to put their experiences on the line to be scrutinized?
You can IM (PM or whatever it is called here). Or you can email me at [email protected].
