Posts by sparky1

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How do you overcome this JW excuse?

by EdenOne in

during one of those meetings that took place before my jc, one of the elders, who was a good friend of mine back then and used to come up with a few outlandish personal views about some teachings, attempted to counter one of my arguments like this:.

eden - "well, if the truth doesn't change, why is it that what we teach as 'truth' has changed over the years (several examples given)?

how can we dogmatically claim at any given moment that we have 'the truth' if our teachings keep changing?".

sparky1

EdenOne.................I would ask the Elder how the following information applies to his reasoning:

"Notice that worship in 'truth' is a must! It is therefore impossible to worship God acceptably without a deep love of the truth. The true Christian religion must be founded on the truth, not on traditions, creeds, dogmas and articles of faith that are often hard to understand because they defy all the faculties of reasoning with which God created us. - The Watchtower January 15, 1970 page 38 paragraph 2

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Watchtower 'Experts' on Being Gay?

by jw07 in

have you seen this article?.

the watchtower is trying to be experts on all things having to do with human sexuality.. repressing sexual desires, gay or straight only creates more problems.. http://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/family/teenagers/ask/pressure-to-be-gay/.

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sparky1

Billy brings up an interesting point. Since Angels were created sexless where did their desire for sexual relations come from? Even more confusing is why did they materialize as men only and have only heterosexual relations? Why didn't some of them become gay and have relations with men? Why not materialize as a woman and have lesbian sexual relationships? Why not materialize as a woman and have heterosexual relations with a man? A rather narrow fable that does not take into consideration the whole range of human sexual relationships.

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Why Do Atheists Struggle So Much Against God Who Supposedly Doesn't Exist?

by Perry in

an athist made this casual statememt on another thread:.

this would suggest to me that there are at least some atheists that do have consistant beliefs.. .

as an atheist, how could he possibly trust the reason that suggests this to himself?

sparky1

"Can't we all just get along?"

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The Judicial Committee is a Circle of Elders in a Room?

by Shanagirl in

has this ever happened to anyone who has been df'd here?

did you walk into a room with a circle of chairs for the whole body of elders?.

shana.

sparky1

"Yes, this is more commonly known as a Circle Jerk."-Zordino

Or...............A CIRCLE OF JERKS!

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Why do ultra rich jehovahs witnesses get a free pass when it comes to being materialistic?

by hoser in

jw
friends

i know a couple of jws in my town that are both very wealthy.

one has upscale retail stores and owns a property development company.

the other has a large service company and owns a lot of real estate.

sparky1

BRAVO!!!!! Well said,AndDon'tCallMeShirley!!!!! Someone finally 'called a spade a spade' and shined the light on a BIG problem within the Jehovahs Witness religion. YOU CANNOT SERVE TWO MASTERS-Jesus Christ. I say that ALL wealthy people in this religion should put their money where their mouth is. There is nothing wrong with having money or building equity, but if a Witness persues riches in this system of things than he is 'just rearranging chairs on the Titanic'. His works belie his religious philosophy.

A person is judged not by what they say but by what they DO.

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Can anyone confirm this?

by bafh in

my mom today said the brother behind the children's annimation used to work at pixar.

is that true?

if so, can anyone confirm it?.

sparky1

THIS IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE!!!! AND THEY GOT WALT DISNEYS CRYOGENICALLY FROZEN HEAD IN THE DEAL!!!!!!!!

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Teaching Anthony Morris III names of common things.

by LogCon in

"...what it is is this spanx, this skin-tight stuff they wear.

now, are you sisters wearing this in the ministry?

i can't say that i've ever seen that.

sparky1

http://www.spanx.com/shop/spanx/men/cat-38-catid-tn_spx_men

CARE TO DO A LITTLE CHRISTMAS SHOPPING, TONY? SPANX AREN'T JUST FOR WOMEN YOU KNOW!

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What were the calculations used to arrive at the 1874 date of Christ's return?

by Zoos in

we all know the calculations used by the wt to arrive at 1914. fall of babylon in 607 (false year), gentile times, no zero year, ta-da, 1914.. what did they use before that?

i know it wasn't russell who came up with it - he just adopted it.

i'm just curious what they had to explain away when they made the transition.. .

sparky1

GOVERNING BODY 2.0 meeting: Trying to 'bury' old light and 'dig' up a new date for Armageddon to drive the flock harder.

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GETTING THINGS STRAIGHT. Who invented the "FDS" as a prophetic identification of the GB? WHEN?

by Terry in

15 july 1906 issue of the watch tower russell stated maria russell was the first who in 1894 "called attention to matt.

24:44-45, applying it to me at a meeting at allegheny and in another meeting with the new york church.

i demurred that i had not thought of the passage thus, and declined to make any personal application of it, although i could not deny the force of the argument....i urged great moderation in the making of any personal application" (p. r3811).

sparky1

Just to bolster Terrys argument and to add credence to what he is saying about the ORGANIZATION:

"This work, which has covered a period of about forty-five years, has never had for its purpose the forming of any arrangement by which Christians join anything."-THE HARP OF GOD 1921 edition page 240 paragraph 422

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GETTING THINGS STRAIGHT. Who invented the "FDS" as a prophetic identification of the GB? WHEN?

by Terry in

15 july 1906 issue of the watch tower russell stated maria russell was the first who in 1894 "called attention to matt.

24:44-45, applying it to me at a meeting at allegheny and in another meeting with the new york church.

i demurred that i had not thought of the passage thus, and declined to make any personal application of it, although i could not deny the force of the argument....i urged great moderation in the making of any personal application" (p. r3811).

sparky1

Here is a different quote for you with the same information, ScenicViewer:

"Without a doubt Pastor Russell filled the office for which the Lord provided and about which he spoke and was therefore that wise and faithful servant, ministering to the household of faith meat in due season."- THE HARP OF GOD 1921 edition page 239 paragraph 420