Posts by rassillon

I was at the bookstudy on monday and was thinking as a sister was reading (the brother got there late)..."she does such a better job than the brother that normally reads, she should do it all the time" very sweet and smart and HOT HOT HOT. ---Was that disrespectful?

Anyway, she and my wife both read better than most brothers. Plus there is just something about a womans voice (normally) that is comforting.

Looking back I now come to think that several of the elders and MS were partially retarded.

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Jehovahs Witnesses and Ecclesiastical Authority

by concerned elder in

i have research the subject throughly and would be willing to share with those who have an interest.. concerned elder.

rassillon

welcome to the board!

I was away for the weekend....Can I get a copy?

iaminsearchoftruth [ AT sign ] gmail.com

Thanks,

-r

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5-Star cooking in the Wilderness

by OUTLAW in

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i realise my life is different than most.i live in the wilderness,in the mountains,where most people will never set foot..right now the temperature is 1-f,a few more hours and it will be below zero-f..the snow is over a foot deep and will be deeper by morning..i just cooked a nice steak on the bbq,out on the patio..i cook there,breakfast,lunch and dinner,regardless of weather or season..my bbq runs on propane..i love propane or natural gas.when i went to chef`s school,i was taught on propane..what is your favorite way to cook food?...outlaw

rassillon

I'm with clam, wood or charcoal.

I love grilling and BBQ, this comes natural being from Texas.

jeffro, not everyone in the states is a fried food addict, If I do eat fried food I like to make it myself since if done right and in the right quantities it is not bad for you.

My favorite I think is jerk pork, just made some last week.

-r

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One of the worst things I've ever heard WARNING: DISTURBING

by under_believer in

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http://www.onnnews.com/?sec=&story=sites/onn/content/pool/200611/595320162.html.

i realize that human stupidity and evil has always existed, and that it's today's technology (enabling the news media) that brings it out into the open.

but damn if that isn't the worst thing i've ever heard.

rassillon

DEATH PENALTY

I hate people that do this kind of crap!

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A question for Jehovah's Witnesses. Please answer.

by rassillon in

i am still in good standing so you must be truthful with me no spiritual warfare with me.. it is almost an automatic response that it is not fair to bring up old literature and old teachings when questioning the wt authority and stand.. i present that since the wt still uses references to early years and bases their authority and choseness on events that happend in those early years and the justification is the differences in what they taught and what nominal christianity taught.

based on these facts and the fact that if you disprove their claims to be chosen at that time they have no basis for authority or claiming a chosen status.. do you still agree that it is not fair to discuss this old literature?.

if you answer yes, when were they chosen by god and what proof do you have for that.

rassillon

I know there are some of us lurking.

I am still in good standing so you must be truthful with me no spiritual warfare with me.

It is almost an automatic response that it is not fair to bring up old literature and old teachings when questioning the WT authority and stand.

I present that since the WT still uses references to early years and bases their authority and choseness on events that happend in those early years and the justification is the differences in what they taught and what nominal christianity taught. Based on these facts and the fact that if you disprove their claims to be chosen at that time they have no basis for authority or claiming a chosen status.

Do you still agree that it is not fair to discuss this old literature?

If you answer yes, when were they chosen by God and what proof do you have for that. You may not use any references to literature and times I am not allowed to reference.

If you please....

-r

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Words and Meanings

by rassillon in

i was just reading jwfacts topic about the change in the teaching about "worshiping" jesus, and i wanted to get this off my chest so to speak.. i started a new thread because these comments are not really inline with his thread, nor is this a rebuttal.... .

for some time even since before i got to the point which i did not agree with the wts teachings i have been researching things and this whole thing about people and having their battle about words and meanings seems a little short sighted to me.. i will take the "worship jesus" example (i am not arguing a point either side here).

we have to accept that the english bible was translated from another language (latin, greek, aramaic, etc.. depending on the translation).

rassillon

Mouthy Said:

So your point??? Do we worship Jesus or not ( In YOUR opinion?

Well I was using the worship example as an "example" but since you asked, the text clearly states we should "proskuneô" Jesus so, that is my opinion. The real question is, in this context what does "proskuneô" mean? Which definition of worship is correct if any? If you say we should worship Jesus, what definition are you using and are you choosing that because of personal preference and personal belief or are you seeking to have an accurate understanding of the original writing. I think most people's belief is a partial fantasy based on what they personally want to see or preferr in the text. I think that once a person becomes dogmatic about a particular viewpoint they have gone beyond the scriptures. Does that answer it for you? -r

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Comments You Will Not Hear at the 11-26-06 WT Review (Honorable Weddings)

by blondie in

comments you will not hear at the 11-26-06 wt study (october 15, 2006, pages 18-23)(honorable weddings).

review comments will be in red.

quotes from other sources will be in quotes boxes.

rassillon

Blondie,

I have been busy and haven't gotten to post much lately but just wanted to say thanks for your continued effort and POV.

I love reading your review of the WT.

Have you thought of sending copies to brooklyn?

You are an asset to the board!

-r

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Words and Meanings

by rassillon in

i was just reading jwfacts topic about the change in the teaching about "worshiping" jesus, and i wanted to get this off my chest so to speak.. i started a new thread because these comments are not really inline with his thread, nor is this a rebuttal.... .

for some time even since before i got to the point which i did not agree with the wts teachings i have been researching things and this whole thing about people and having their battle about words and meanings seems a little short sighted to me.. i will take the "worship jesus" example (i am not arguing a point either side here).

we have to accept that the english bible was translated from another language (latin, greek, aramaic, etc.. depending on the translation).

rassillon

I was just reading jwfacts topic about the change in the teaching about "worshiping" Jesus, and I wanted to get this off my chest so to speak.

I started a new thread because these comments are not really inline with his thread, nor is this a rebuttal...

For some time even since before I got to the point which I did not agree with the WTS teachings I have been researching things and this whole thing about people and having their battle about words and meanings seems a little short sighted to me.

I will take the "worship jesus" example (I am not arguing a point either side here)

We have to accept that the english bible was translated from another language (latin, greek, aramaic, etc.. depending on the translation). When translating, translators have to take into consideration the multiple meanings that both the source and target words have multiple meanings.

Proeskuno(sp?) <-----------> Worship

meaning one ---------NE------------- meaning one

meaning two ----------NE------------ meaning two

meaning three =====EQ====== meaning three

meaning four ======EQ====== meaning four

just an example and not a good one.

But what I am saying is that in Greek during the period when it was written in the context in which it was written needs to be understood AND even when translated into english this may not carry the exact meaning of the word worship or maybe only kind of one of the meanings.

I know I may not be expressing this the best way but thus the reason for caution when reading and understanding. lol

I have seen so many battles on the internet about the bible says WORSHIP (or whatever the word in question may be) so you must accept the default definition of the word. When if people would just say "you know, it could mean this or that, just do your best with what you know and keep trying to understand more" a lot of people would have a lot more free time. ;)

Anyway I just wanted to get that off my chest.

Regards,

-r

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New Use For Tract - Part 2 (slightly distastful)

by Asheron in

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guess what!!!!

i got another tract.

same use as before....here is the result.. .

rassillon

Its a laxitive!